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Re: The NAFTA Shuttle: Humanitarian Solution to the Caravan
Reply #10 - Apr 27th, 2018 at 8:26am
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
So it can be similar likes, but not similar culture, otherwise I'm racist scum.

I'm allowed to prefer chess players over non-chess-players.
Why do you invert everything?

You can play chess or tennis or internet games with anyone you want.

All I said was that "birds of a feather" is much more expansive than being simply people who look alike and have the same cultural background.

If you restrict membership in your chess club to only white males, you are probably racists and sexists and fools.
  
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Re: The NAFTA Shuttle: Humanitarian Solution to the Caravan
Reply #11 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 12:36am
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Jeff wrote on Apr 27th, 2018 at 8:26am:
Why do you invert everything?

You can play chess or tennis or internet games with anyone you want.

All I said was that "birds of a feather" is much more expansive than being simply people who look alike and have the same cultural background.

If you restrict membership in your chess club to only white males, you are probably racists and sexists and fools.


I invite anyone who reads this to go back and read what I actually posted so they can realise you did not address my question.
  

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Reply #12 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 12:36am:
I invite anyone who reads this to go back and read what I actually posted so they can realise you did not address my question.
I have my own questions about you, but not many.

I thought I did a good job of explaining that I couldn't see any qualitative difference between pedophile priests and pedophile psychologists, and that I don't believe any quantitative studies have been done.

Edit: If I was allowed to bet, I'd bet that there are more per capita pedophile psychologists than priests. I bet only politicians in authoritarian states are higher per capita.

If you know of one, I'd like to hear of it. Thanks.

Should we try to limit the discussion to only scientists?
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:31pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
Should we try to limit the discussion to only scientists?
Answer the question.
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:41pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
I thought I did a good job of explaining that I couldn't see any qualitative difference between pedophile priests and pedophile psychologists, and that I don't believe any quantitative studies have been done.


I would agree with you that there are probably more paedophile psychologists.

That wasn't anything close to what I was asking you in that thread, though.

Jeff wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
Should we try to limit the discussion to only scientists?


I am establishing a principle by using an example.

My point was that even though religion has a problem with molestation, this doesn't taint the ones following the religion and not molesting anyone. You don't get to say Catholicism isn't a real religion just because it happens to be infesting with boy-raping priests. Those individuals are not following the religion.

Again, you're going off on a tangent. I asked you in this thread why I'm allowed to prefer chess-players but when I start preferring people who don't require females to wear bags over their heads, that's racist. I don't care what colour they are or if they're following a religion or not.
  

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Reply #15 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 6:37pm
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
I would agree with you that there are probably more paedophile psychologists.

That wasn't anything close to what I was asking you in that thread, though.


I am establishing a principle by using an example.

My point was that even though religion has a problem with molestation, this doesn't taint the ones following the religion and not molesting anyone.
What principle does that establish?

That everything is "science" because fallible people are involved?

Or that religions are scientific?

You keep flying off on tangents and getting confused...
  
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Reply #16 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 6:38pm
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You haven't answered the question.

Answer the question.
  
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Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 3:55pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
What principle does that establish?


I already explained that, but I'll explain it again. If you follow a system of beliefs and tenets, other people who say they follow that system of beliefs and tenets but don't (or rape little boys) don't invalidate what you're following.

The Opposition wrote on Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
Again, you're going off on a tangent. I asked you in this thread why I'm allowed to prefer chess-players but when I start preferring people who don't require females to wear bags over their heads, that's racist. I don't care what colour they are or if they're following a religion or not.
  

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Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 6:10pm
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The Opposition wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 3:55pm:
I already explained that, but I'll explain it again. If you follow a system of beliefs and tenets, other people who say they follow that system of beliefs and tenets but don't (or rape little boys) don't invalidate what you're following.

How does that relate to the validity of "scientific" psychology?
  
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Reply #19 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 10:30pm
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Jeff wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
How does that relate to the validity of "scientific" psychology?


I already explained that, but I'll explain it again. Just because a few people claiming to be practicing psychology are not following the scientific method, does not invalidate psychology, properly done, as a science.

A science is just the study of X. Insert whatever you like as X. You can study anything you want, and crackpots doing it wrong don't invalidate the people doing it right.

Now how about you answer my question? You say I'm allowed to preferentially associate with people who have things in common, like playing chess. But if I want to preferentially associate with people who believe females don't have to wear bags over their heads, I'm a racist.

How is that?
  

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