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Reply #20 - May 4th, 2018 at 1:11pm
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Don_G wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
Craig, I don't mind giving you a bit of help on this topic...
Sorry, I can't help you.
  
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Reply #21 - May 4th, 2018 at 1:14pm
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Billie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Sorry, I can't help you.


You may have alredy hit on the ADHD scamming? I'm not sure because I don't read all of this shit. But just in case you haven't, you can use it to shut burnsred down effectively. We'll see I guess?
  
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Reply #22 - May 4th, 2018 at 4:15pm
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Parental responsibility is essential.


So true.
  
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Reply #23 - May 4th, 2018 at 4:51pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
So true.
There is probably survival value in that belief. Almost certainly there is.
  
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Reply #24 - May 4th, 2018 at 5:48pm
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Billie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
You managed to get two Masters degrees in psychology without ever learning anything about the use of drugs to treat "mental disorders"?


Facts, Billie.  They help.

I have one degree in educational psychology and one degree special education.  In the fall, I will have a doctoral in educational psychology.  Sorry, I know those are some trigger words for you, but I wanted to clear that up.

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Even if you are a behaviorist who prefers aversion therapy to drugs, (OK, you are probably a "modern" behaviorist who believes only in reward therapy) you can't possibly be that ignorant of everything else. Even intelligent laymen know the basic idea behind using psychoactive drugs to alter behavior... That is what they are claimed to do for schoolchildren you know, alter behavior in beneficial ways.


Yes, I have an intelligent layman's knowledge of the use of mood altering drugs for children with behavioral disorders.   You keep asking my opinion as a mind scientist which is why I refer you to experts on drugs.

But, since you now ask me as a layman, it happens that I have more than a typical layman's experience working with children with behavior disorders who are the patients for whom these drugs are created.  This includes children who have never been prescribed them, children who have taken them for most of their childhoods, children who have taken them and stopped, children who take them off and on, children who are prescribed them and only take them when their parents force them to, children who ask to be put on them only to sell them, teenagers who save their drugs and trade them at parties, and in my very first high school, kids who talked about pharma companies the way motorheads compare Dodge to GM.

If anything, my opinion of giving children what I refer to as "behavior drugs" is lower than yours.  I have turned down many requests by administrators and other school personnel to use my influence to convince parents that their students need them.

So, while a keyboard warrior may feel that she has served humanity by ranting against drugging kids, I have been in the trenches, so to speak, convincing numerous parents to avoid those drugs by offering a scientific alternative:  the scientific science of mind science.  I also have to admit, I applied mind science in convincing those parents. 

Was that wrong of me?
  

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Reply #25 - May 4th, 2018 at 5:54pm
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SnarkySack wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
Facts, Billie.  They help.

I have one degree in educational psychology and one degree special education.  In the fall, I will have a doctoral in educational psychology.
That seems unlikely to me.

Get back to me when you are accredited by the ABPP.

Even then, your claims of being a "mind scientist" will be suspect with me.

I will continue to judge you on what you say.
  
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Reply #26 - May 4th, 2018 at 5:59pm
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SnarkySack wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
Facts, Billie.  They help.



Yes, I have an intelligent layman's knowledge of the use of mood altering drugs for children with behavioral disorders.   You keep asking my opinion as a mind scientist which is why I refer you to experts on drugs.

But, since you now ask me as a layman, it happens that I have more than a typical layman's experience working with children with behavior disorders...

So you are an intelligent layman and also, at the same time, "more" than just an intelligent layman?

Make up your minds!

  
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Reply #27 - May 4th, 2018 at 6:01pm
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SnarkySack wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
  I have turned down many requests by administrators and other school personnel to use my influence to convince parents that their students need them.
In your fantasy world, do school administrators and parents frequently consult with unaccredited graduate students, which is what you claim to be? Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
  
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Re: Doctoral Degrees in the Sciences
Reply #28 - May 4th, 2018 at 6:02pm
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Billie wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
So you are an intelligent layman and also, at the same time, "more" than just an intelligent layman?

Make up your minds!



That's like saying a person can't be an amateur athlete with more experience and skill than a typical amateur athlete.

Geeze, Billie.  You never tire of looking foolish, huh?

  

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Re: Doctoral Degrees in the Sciences
Reply #29 - May 4th, 2018 at 6:04pm
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SnarkySack wrote on May 4th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
That's like saying a person can't be an amateur athlete with more experience and skill than a typical amateur athlete.

Geeze, Billie.  You never tire of looking foolish, huh?



Well, maybe you will seem more intelligent when you say something substantive.

Go ahead . . .
  

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