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Reply #330 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 11:02pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:35pm:
the lizard saying that libertarianism is the philosophy of ignorant children


You're the one misrepresenting what I said.

I admitted that there's nothing wrong with the Cato Institute, the Mises Institute, or many of the people (Skychief, Burnsy, Ruby) that follow libertarianism. I said libertarianism itself, as a philosophy, wins over all others, hands down.

However, it is attracting selfish, spoiled, child-first generation mental two-year-olds who never learned to share. They're right that they shouldn't have to, but they adopted libertarianism because they never learned to.

Try to understand the analogy.

I'm also saying there is nothing really wrong with the tenets of the Catholic faith or most of the people following it. However, something about it is attracting paedophiles.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #331 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 12:05am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 11:02pm:
You're the one misrepresenting what I said.

I admitted that there's nothing wrong with the Cato Institute, the Mises Institute, or many of the people (Skychief, Burnsy, Ruby) that follow libertarianism. I said libertarianism itself, as a philosophy, wins over all others, hands down.

However, it is attracting selfish, spoiled, child-first generation mental two-year-olds who never learned to share. They're right that they shouldn't have to, but they adopted libertarianism because they never learned to.

Try to understand the analogy.

I'm also saying there is nothing really wrong with the tenets of the Catholic faith or most of the people following it. However, something about it is attracting paedophiles.


Oppo, if you like candy you go to  the candy store. If you like to rape little boys you become a catholic priest.

And also Oppo, the pope still protects the guilty ones.

Your theory of libertarianism attracting selfish spoiled children who never learned to share is interesting.

There's no doubt that libertarians will demand rights, freedoms, and liberties at the expense of other people's.
  
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Reply #332 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:54am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 11:02pm:
You're the one misrepresenting what I said.

I admitted that there's nothing wrong with the Cato Institute, the Mises Institute, or many of the people (Skychief, Burnsy, Ruby) that follow libertarianism. I said libertarianism itself, as a philosophy, wins over all others, hands down.

However, it is attracting selfish, spoiled, child-first generation mental two-year-olds who never learned to share. They're right that they shouldn't have to, but they adopted libertarianism because they never learned to.

So who is Bernie Sanders attracting?

Your claim is nonsense. Certainly there are some selfish ignorant children who call themselves libertarians, just as some selfish ignorant children say they are socialists. In most cases, none of them know anything about either system of political economy, being the ignorant children they are.

Are you worried that the ignorant children are taking over socialism or the Democratic Party?

I thought every child had sharing hammered into their heads almost from birth these days... According to collectivist psychologists, that should ensure that they all grow up to be sharing adults.

OK, it isn't working... Some people are still selfish. If they want to be libertarians and advocate for individual liberty and individual Rights and individual responsibility and a limited government of law to protect those things, I say that's great, that's far better than having selfish people become socialists isn't it?

Here's what happens when selfish people get control of a socialist government-

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12064165
  

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Reply #333 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:57am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 11:02pm:
I'm also saying there is nothing really wrong with the tenets of the Catholic faith or most of the people following it. However, something about it is attracting paedophiles.
According to Red, the fields of psychology/psychiatry attract more pedophiles than the Catholic Church... maybe you can see some similarity between being a Priest and being a psychologist that attracts the same sort of people?
  

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Reply #334 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 1:24pm
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Please everyone, try to stay on the topic of racism. This thread and the discussion of racism is making some progress with some of the libertarians at least. And it's a known fact that racism is prevalent among libertarians to some degree. Very few people who aren't white Americans are libertarians. Perhaps none but that can be established here.

Take this as a challenge to improve behaviour on this forum!

Hopefully burnsred will start to take part on this thred. He will know the value of logical consequences when applied to racism issues and he will notice how it's working with some of the people but having the opposite on the most hardened of the racists.

Nobody should be having to wonder who 'they' are!
  
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Reply #335 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:03pm
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Racism is prevalent among all political parties.  The topic of this thread is how you Liberals, Don, use the, "racist" label for political gain, and how you change the definition of racism so as to be able to continue putting that label on people.  A decade ago no one thought anything about a white girl wearing a traditional Chinese dress, but now all of a sudden it's racist.  The term, "cultural appropriation" is bullshit.
  
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Reply #336 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:55pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
Racism is prevalent among all political parties.  The topic of this thread is how you Liberals, Don, use the, "racist" label for political gain, and how you change the definition of racism so as to be able to continue putting that label on people.  A decade ago no one thought anything about a white girl wearing a traditional Chinese dress, but now all of a sudden it's racist.  The term, "cultural appropriation" is bullshit.
Because a fundamental of libertarian theory is the essential worth of the individual, libertarians are much more likely to judge people as individuals rather than as members of a group, which is what racism is all about. stereotyping individuals because of their perceived 'membership' in a group.

Because "progressives" and other modern collectivists (like "socialists") base their fundamental theories on groups (like "society"), which results from their tribal minds and tribal ways of thinking, they are much more likely to be racist than libertarians.
  

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Reply #337 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:57pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
Racism is prevalent among all political parties.  The topic of this thread is how you Liberals, Don, use the, "racist" label for political gain, and how you change the definition of racism so as to be able to continue putting that label on people.  A decade ago no one thought anything about a white girl wearing a traditional Chinese dress, but now all of a sudden it's racist.  The term, "cultural appropriation" is bullshit.


Racism is prevalent among all political parties.
  
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Reply #338 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 4:13pm
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Racism is prevalent among all political parties.
No it's not. There are some racists in all parties, but libertarians are the least likely to be racist, because of their fundamental beliefs.
  

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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #339 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 5:39pm
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If only we all had the libertarian ideal of seeing everyone as individuals, we'd make so much more progress.
  
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