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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #360 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 7:13am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
This is true of every single political philosophy. Self-advantage comes first, justification after.

It is not true of the philosophy of classical liberals/libertarians lizard. The whole idea is that no one gets any advantage from government, that everyone has an equal opportunity under laws that treat everyone equally.

There is no "self-advantage" in being free when everyone else is just as free as you, and the justification for Liberty comes first, not later.
  
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Reply #361 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 2:39pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 7:13am:
It is not true of the philosophy of classical liberals/libertarians lizard. The whole idea is that no one gets any advantage from government, that everyone has an equal opportunity under laws that treat everyone equally.

There is no "self-advantage" in being free when everyone else is just as free as you, and the justification for Liberty comes first, not later.


Racism is a very well known trait of the extreme right, fascist/Nazi.

Everybody knows now who holds first place on my scale and is the most extremist on this forum. It fits your mannerisms perfectly.

Heil Trump, Heil American, Heil Craig Sickler!
  
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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #362 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:04pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Racism is a very well known trait of the extreme right, fascist/Nazi.


National Socialists Dong.

As I have been saying over and over, "socialism" is tribal, and an inherent part of tribalism is that "others" are not real humans.

It's the root of racism, and "socialists" have preserved it well into the 21st Century. Sad
  
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Reply #363 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:24pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 7:13am:
It is not true of the philosophy of classical liberals/libertarians lizard. The whole idea is that no one gets any advantage from government, that everyone has an equal opportunity under laws that treat everyone equally.

There is no "self-advantage" in being free when everyone else is just as free as you, and the justification for Liberty comes first, not later.


The self-advantage comes from interpreting the equality. Libertarians can't even agree whether intellectual property is a thing or how it works.

You have only one rule: The NAP. But it's so vague and full of holes that anyone can see it's only meant to advantage those who know how to screw with it best.

In other words, lawyers. In a world where the NAP is the only guiding principle but you can still sue anyone for anything, even if it's not aggression, the biggest lawyers win the day.
  

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Reply #364 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:58pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:24pm:
The self-advantage comes from interpreting the equality. Libertarians can't even agree whether intellectual property is a thing or how it works.

You have only one rule: The NAP. But it's so vague and full of holes that anyone can see it's only meant to advantage those who know how to screw with it best.

In other words, lawyers. In a world where the NAP is the only guiding principle but you can still sue anyone for anything, even if it's not aggression, the biggest lawyers win the day.


I'm so glad to be able to read that Oppo because it's a sure sign you are recovering from this pseudo-libertarian horseshit ideology.

Along with that will go a lessening of racist feelings in you and of course, I will consider moving you down my racism scale.

You get extra points already for attacking the biggest piece of libertarian shit on this forum. the skichief.
  
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Reply #365 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:10am
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:58pm:
I'm so glad to be able to read that Oppo because it's a sure sign you are recovering from this pseudo-libertarian horseshit ideology.


Because I gave an example of the free market failing? Because I know the usual reasons for anyone believing in any political philosophy? Again, you prove you don't understand what I believe.

Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:58pm:
Along with that will go a lessening of racist feelings in you and of course, I will consider moving you down my racism scale.

You get extra points already for attacking the biggest piece of libertarian shit on this forum. the skichief.


I was attacking Jeff. I won't take your praise if it's misplaced any more than I'll take your misplaced hatred. Just accept that your IQ is too low to be able to understand a word I say and either move on, or ask me very simple questions about what I believe. If you choose the latter, I'll answer them as simply as I can.

"Are you for X?" "Are you against X?" "Do you agree with X?" "Do you disagree with X?"

Ask, before you assume.

As long as you don't ask why I agree or disagree with any particular thing, we should be able to communicate.

I owe normies equal treatment. What I don't owe you is a song and dance about how you are equal. You're not. I won't use dirty tricks to bamboozle anyone in a debate, and I very much am interested in everyone's perspective.

Either one of us pretending the IQ gap doesn't exist will only serve to stifle communication.

Simple questions. I'll try to provide simple answers.

I apologise for my arrogance but this business of being unable to communicate with you  because you can't communicate at my level isn't tolerable. You're talking at me, not to me, and it's not your fault, and I will do every damn thing in my power to resolve it.
  

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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #366 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:21am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:10am:
You're talking at me, not to me, and it's not your fault, and I will do every damn thing in my power to resolve it.


Thank you for saying it's not my fault. Had you spoken one more word to me, the all powerful Surak, I would have had your head chopped off and used for a football by the humans.

I think we understand eaxh other much better now. And now it's time to eliminate the evil Sickeler from the earth.
  
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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #367 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:51am
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:21am:
Thank you for saying it's not my fault. Had you spoken one more word to me, the all powerful Surak, I would have had your head chopped off and used for a football by the humans.

I think we understand eaxh other much better now. And now it's time to eliminate the evil Sickeler from the earth.


Are you ready to ask me simple questions about what I believe before you assume what I believe?

Also, you seem to have two kinds of aliens from two different universes confused. My head wouldn't make a football.
  

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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #368 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:15am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:24pm:
The self-advantage comes from interpreting the equality.
That's what "progressives" do lizard, "interpret" the law so it no longer applies equally.

Here's an example-

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/fec-dem-who-targeted-drudg...
  
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Re: Liberals Will Always See Racism
Reply #369 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:19am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:10am:
I was attacking Jeff.
And here I thought you were attacking the idea that a rule of law can be applied equally, a very libertarian idea.

It's when you start applying the law so that one group is favored over others, or one group is singled out for dis-favor that the problems you identify occur, and guess who always applies groupthink to everything? Not libertarians...
  
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