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Re: World Still Embraces Marx's Socialism
Reply #20 - May 7th, 2018 at 12:38pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 12:30pm:
You've completely misunderstood me, then.  Im not promoting US intervention in foreign wars. I'm against the US getting involved in foreign wars.

I've always contended that the last war the US had any (valid) reason to be in was WW II. 

You're deliberately misrepresenting what I've said.   Whatever.


No Chief I didn't and I suspected you would quickly jump to defend yourself. I said that you were still defending the tumbling dominoes theory, which you clearly did.

If you're going to criticize communism then do so in a logical way and I'll join you. You know it's my agenda to promote 'socially responsible capitalism' and discussing how that isn't communism serves a useful purpose.

Don't worry about it. Just look at your words and consider how you made a mistake.

But let's move on the Raimondo's article and the comments by libertarians. Those libertarians speak out loudly for the agenda and so they should be of interest to you and others on this board.

And if you can summon up the courage to comment on the coming Iran situation, Eric Margolis presents a very informative background on which to start.
  
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Re: World Still Embraces Marx's Socialism
Reply #21 - May 7th, 2018 at 1:06pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 12:38pm:
No Chief I didn't and I suspected you would quickly jump to defend yourself. I said that you were still defending the tumbling dominoes theory, which you clearly did.

If you're going to criticize communism then do so in a logical way and I'll join you.

*sigh*

Logic - yes - let's start with that.   You wrote:

Sicklers Dink wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 12:37am:
Since the Vietnam war in which the US slaughterd millions for no reason than blood lust,

This is FALSE, and you know it.  You got caught in a lie.   So I explained the real reason the US got involved in Viet Nam:

SkyChief wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 12:08pm:
... the reason the US was involved in Viet Nam (and Korea) was NOT "blood lust".

It was to prevent the malignant cancer of Communism from spreading.

Which is TRUE.

"The lesson liberals need to learn is that despite their arrogance, they do not have the power to alter reality."
- Walter Williams
  
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Reply #22 - May 7th, 2018 at 1:18pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
*sigh*

Logic - yes - let's start with that.   You wrote:

This is FALSE, and you know it.  You got caught in a lie.   So I explained the real reason the US got involved in Viet Nam:

Which is TRUE.

"The lesson liberals need to learn is that despite their arrogance, they do not have the power to alter reality."
- Walter Williams


I'll just say that my reason is just as valid as any reason and that goes for the Iraq war too.

We all know the 'official' reason for the Vietnam war Chief. That's what you have stated. But we also now know that the reason was a lie. Yet you clearly still accept it as the truth.

I'll leave you with it to contemplate and stew over. But if you want to continue the conversation then come up with a real reason for the Vietnam war.

I would suggest that you think of it in similar terms to the Iraq war. It wasn't a fight to hold back communism and stop the dominoes tumbling. (I assume you understand that phrase?)

If you can't come up with the real reason for your country's wars then I'll tell you. I'll save it and give you the opportunity first.

Iraq is the clue. You're going to have to face the music.
  
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Reply #23 - May 7th, 2018 at 2:50pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
We all know the 'official' reason for the Vietnam war Chief. That's what you have stated. But we also now know that the reason was a lie. Yet you clearly still accept it as the truth.

*sigh*

Sicklers Dink wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
I'll leave you with it to contemplate and stew over.

Nothing to 'stew over.'

You just pressed the "I win the debate"  button.

It's clear that any further discussion with you on this topic would be pointless and a waste of time.
  
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Re: World Still Embraces Marx's Socialism
Reply #24 - May 7th, 2018 at 3:04pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
*sigh*

Nothing to 'stew over.'

You just pressed the "I win the debate"  button.

It's clear that any further discussion with you on this topic would be pointless and a waste of time.


Without your explanation of the reason for the Vietnam war and the iraq war, or both in one, I just consider it as you running away from the  debate.

suit yourself.
  
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Re: World Still Embraces Marx's Socialism
Reply #25 - May 7th, 2018 at 5:20pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Without your explanation of the reason for the Vietnam war and the iraq war, or both in one, I just consider it as you running away from the  debate.

suit yourself.
Did you every know of a Communist terroristic war of Revolution in the name of the Marxist "socialist system" utopia that you didn't like?

You monger war in the name of revolutionary terrorism for a failed ideology. Shame on you.
  
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Re: World Still Embraces Marx's Socialism
Reply #26 - May 7th, 2018 at 7:21pm
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Jeff wrote on May 7th, 2018 at 5:20pm:
Did you every know of a Communist terroristic war of Revolution in the name of the Marxist "socialist system" utopia that you didn't like?

You monger war in the name of revolutionary terrorism for a failed ideology. Shame on you.


Marx's success almost resulted in throwing out sky fairy religion and making the Soviet Union completely atheist. Russia will likely be the first modern country to achieve that lofty goal!

When they get it down to 1 or 2% Christian believers left I think the plan is to kill the rest.
  
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