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Reply #30 - May 8th, 2018 at 11:47am
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It's fair to say that you as a libertarian are trying to help government gerrymander the state of Californis in order to turn it red.

Splitting up California into smaller states is not gerrymandering. In fact, it's the exact opposite of gerrymandering.

And that has nothing to do with natural monopolies.
  
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Reply #31 - May 8th, 2018 at 12:08pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 11:47am:

Splitting up California into smaller states is not gerrymandering. In fact, it's the exact opposite of gerrymandering.

And that has nothing to do with natural monopolies.


Gerrymandering is redrawing the lines in order to change the outcome of an election. That's exactly what you weirdos are trying to do in California.
  
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Reply #32 - May 8th, 2018 at 12:24pm
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Gerrymandering is redrawing the lines in order to change the outcome of an election. That's exactly what you weirdos are trying to do in California.

No it's not.  We're NOT trying to change the outcome of any election.   We're trying to de-centralize government so each new state will be better represented by their respective (new) governments.

The existing State government has become dysfunctional because of it's size.   Sacramento has become the most powerful state government in the country. No other state even comes close.

It's not a partisan Left - Right thing.  It's about downsizing government so it can once again serve the people of California.
  
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Reply #33 - May 8th, 2018 at 1:31pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 12:24pm:
No it's not.  We're NOT trying to change the outcome of any election.   We're trying to de-centralize government so each new state will be better represented by their respective (new) governments.


Like I said 'new' governments. Or did I say different government? Whatever?

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The existing State government has become dysfunctional because of it's size.   Sacramento has become the most powerful state government in the country. No other state even comes close.

It's not a partisan Left - Right thing.  It's about downsizing government so it can once again serve the people of California.


Dohhhhhhhh!  Embarrassed

Chief fkn really!

Maybe at this point a laughing man would help you feel better?
  
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Reply #34 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:25pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 9:49am:
That's laughable.  Are you being ironic again?

The government shells out money to select individuals as fast as it can steal it, borrow it, and print it.  It gives money and favors to individuals, corporations, professional organizations, unions, voting blocks and other groups of individuals in exchange for hoped-for votes and other election support to individual members of the government. 

The constitution doesn't lift a finger to stop it.  The constitution provides for no enforcement mechanism for its supposed restrictions on government.  The judicial branch - "one among equals" - awarded itself the power of enforcement of the constitution and immediately began screwing that up.

No one should have been surprised that a document which speaks in ringing words about protecting freedom while also protecting the institution of slavery would soon be shown to be unworkable.

Lack of enforcement does not legalize illegal activities Red. Getting away with stealing doesn't legalize stealing either.

Slavery was outlawed in the U.S. by Constitutional amendment after the slavers were defeated in their rebellion to preserve and extend slavery.

Just because you refuse to learn the history behind the evil compromise that preserved slavery in the U.S. doesn't mean that your ludicrous contention that the U.S. was created to preserve slavery or the the Constitution on Liberty is a sham.

Your fixation on slandering the Constitution and the Founders of America gets boring.
  
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Reply #35 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 11:47am:

Splitting up California into smaller states is not gerrymandering. In fact, it's the exact opposite of gerrymandering.

And that has nothing to do with natural monopolies.
Indeed it doesn't, and I'm still waiting for one of you who continues to mention "natural monopolies" to mention one specifically.
  
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Reply #36 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:36pm
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Jeff wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Indeed it doesn't, and I'm still waiting for one of you who continues to mention "natural monopolies" to mention one specifically.


That would be nice! Can you at least tell me Craig, what any of them think could be a natural monopoly?

Could that be a monopoly that was created by one of the gods? Your god?

Does your god have a monopoly on the 'god' business? No other gods are allowed to come before him so to speak in the language? There's no doubt that bible says we're not supposed to worship other gods or Mammoth bones or rocks or any other shit we can put up over our fireplace mantle!

Your god is the only natural monopoly that can exist. Exist in some minds at least!
  
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Reply #37 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:49pm
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Jeff wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Indeed it doesn't, and I'm still waiting for one of you who continues to mention "natural monopolies" to mention one specifically.

Well, we've already discussed railway infrastructure.

The electrical grid would be another example of a natural monopoly.  If Southern California Edison doubled their rates tomorrow, We (users) have no choice but to pay it.

We can't transfer our AC power to Bob & Pete's Power Co.

Because Bob & Pete's Power Co. doesn't even exist.

In Southern California,  Southern California Edison has a monopoly. It's a natural monopoly because they alone built/own/maintain the electrical infrastructure.
  
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Reply #38 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:49pm
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That would be nice! Can you at least tell me Craig, what any of them think could be a natural monopoly?

Could that be a monopoly that was created by one of the gods? Your god?

Does your god have a monopoly on the 'god' business? No other gods are allowed to come before him so to speak in the language? There's no doubt that bible says we're not supposed to worship other gods or Mammoth bones or rocks or any other shit we can put up over our fireplace mantle!

Your god is the only natural monopoly that can exist. Exist in some minds at least!
Thanks for trying Donat, but I don't think God qualifies as strictly "natural". I'm not positive about that. More evidence will be required...

Did you mean to say that God is "natural"? That's a topic for philosophy and religion, not political economics.
  
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Reply #39 - May 8th, 2018 at 2:53pm
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Jeff wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Thanks for trying Donat, but I don't think God qualifies as strictly "natural". I'm not positive about that. More evidence will be required...




And that is something we can agree on Craig! your god is somewhat unnatural.

Or not qualified to be strictly natural if you prefer!
  
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