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Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
May 8th, 2018 at 4:02am
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What a mess.  We should have predicted it.  Government printing money like crazy -  runaway inflations.

Almost as bad as Zimbabwe.  How many trillion Bolivars for a loaf of bread?   Nobody knows for sure.  The only thing for certain is that it costs a lot more today than it did yesterday.

No wonder people are eating their pets!

As the currency loses purchasing power, the people have turned to barter as a means of exchange:

"A barber in the countryside cuts hair for yuccas, bananas or eggs. Moto-taxi drivers will get you where you need to go for carton of cigarettes. The owners of one of my favorite Mexican restaurants offer a plate of burritos, enchiladas, tamal and tacos in return for a few packages of paper napkins. "

Don't laugh.  It could happen here in the US.   This is the hideous face of socialism. 
  
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #1 - May 8th, 2018 at 7:37am
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #2 - May 8th, 2018 at 11:16am
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"Venezuelans do not have weaponry at home. The right to defend our own lives was seized in 2014 under threat of 25 years of jail for those who don't give up their guns. Those who agreed to the registering of their guns had to give them for “ballistic registration” and they were never given back their weapons."

I could see the gun-grabbers trying something like this in the US.   "Turn in your firearms for ballistics inspection and they'll be returned to you after the inspection."   

Would anyone really fall for that crap? Would anyone really expect their guns would be returned?

I think some would. 
  
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #3 - May 8th, 2018 at 12:22pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 11:16am:
"Venezuelans do not have weaponry at home. The right to defend our own lives was seized in 2014 under threat of 25 years of jail for those who don't give up their guns. Those who agreed to the registering of their guns had to give them for “ballistic registration” and they were never given back their weapons."

I could see the gun-grabbers trying something like this in the US.   "Turn in your firearms for ballistics inspection and they'll be returned to you after the inspection."   

Would anyone really fall for that crap? Would anyone really expect their guns would be returned?

I think some would. 


Wouldn't that fix the gun problem!

Venezuela's worst problem is US meddling in their affairs in the same way the US meddled in Cuba.

The US can only meddle if a country isn't nuclear arms capable. North Korea is an extreme example of communism being allowed to succeed too now that the US is kept at bay.

Vietnam another example because of the people's determination to not be occupied by fascist US force!

Why do Americans like you hate so much Chief? Why does a country have to be destroyed if it chooses a different way than your failing capitalist system?

Your hating gives away you as a phony libertarian who is only pretending that people can have rights and freedoms.
  
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #4 - May 8th, 2018 at 12:41pm
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Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Venezuela's worst problem is US meddling in their affairs in the same way the US meddled in Cuba.

The US can only meddle if a country isn't nuclear arms capable.

Maybe Russia could help Venezuela by giving them some nukes.  Then Venezuela could regain the prosperity they once had.

Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
North Korea is an extreme example of communism being allowed to succeed too now that the US is kept at bay.

LOL.  You've been hoodwinked by the RT propaganda, Don_G.

Truth is, North Korea is a shit-hole of a country. Without influence by the US.



Roughly 18 million people in North Korea are not getting enough food, a United Nations report released this week found. That means 70 percent of the isolated nation's population relies on food assistance to get by, including 1.3 million children under the age of five.

North Koreans also need basic healthcare and sanitation, the U.N. report determined. Without safe water or better sanitation and hygiene, diarrhea and pneumonia have become the leading cause of death for children under five, the report said.

http://www.newsweek.com/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-starving-his-people-pay-nuclear...

Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Your hating gives away you as a phony libertarian who is only pretending that people can have rights and freedoms.
You're upset and emotional right now.  And that's completely understandable.  I've been unusually rough on you.   I'll allow you some time to cool off and gather your thoughts.
  
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Reply #5 - May 8th, 2018 at 1:04pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
Maybe Russia could help Venezuela by giving them some nukes.  Then Venezuela could regain the prosperity they once had.

LOL.  You've been hoodwinked by the RT propaganda, Don_G.

Truth is, North Korea is a shit-hole of a country. Without influence by the US.



Roughly 18 million people in North Korea are not getting enough food, a United Nations report released this week found. That means 70 percent of the isolated nation's population relies on food assistance to get by, including 1.3 million children under the age of five.

North Koreans also need basic healthcare and sanitation, the U.N. report determined. Without safe water or better sanitation and hygiene, diarrhea and pneumonia have become the leading cause of death for children under five, the report said.

http://www.newsweek.com/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-starving-his-people-pay-nuclear...

You're upset and emotional right now.  And that's completely understandable.  I've been unusually rough on you.   I'll allow you some time to cool off and gather your thoughts.


Whatever you think Chief. I figured that would be coming because of your experience yesterday. So I'll just say that if the US leaves small countries alone to their own devices, they generally succeed. But using Cuba as an example, their measure of success can be judged directly according to how much US involvement is holding them back.

Why does that have to be?

And a much more important question is, why would any libertarian stand with his/her country's aggression that steals away the rights and freedoms of those small victim countries.

The American capitalist will probably claim that he is saving them. I just can't accept that a libertarian would buy into that lie. Not a real libertarian at least.

We should discuss what that is!
  
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm
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Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
... why would any libertarian stand with his/her country's aggression that steals away the rights and freedoms of those small victim countries...

I just can't accept that a libertarian would buy into that lie. Not a real libertarian at least.

I hope you're not referring to me - you know that I have consistently been anti-intervention and anti-war.  I want the US to leave these shit-hole, tin-pot dictatorships alone.   ... And all the shit-hole cesspits in the Middle East.  The US needs to get out of there, too.
  
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SkyChief wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
I hope you're not referring to me - you know that I have consistently been anti-intervention and anti-war.  I want the US to leave these shit-hole, tin-pot dictatorships alone.   ... And all the shit-hole cesspits in the Middle East.  The US needs to get out of there, too.


You're speaking loud and clear on what you think of other small countries that have been destroyed by the US.

It's a clear expression of hate and so I can't accept that you want to leave them alone. That would at least require you to be neutral on those countries.

The issue here is not to argue whether or not you are pro-war. I'm asking you why you are expressing such seething hatred toward other people in other countries, or even those people's countries, however you want to spin it?

If you're going to claim to be a libertarian then shouldn't you at least try to hide your hate for other people who aren't Americans?

What is it that I said that has brought all this hate in you to the surface? I'm going to have to go back over what I said yesterday and see if I can find it. Then I can use it in the future to make you go crazy!
  
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #8 - May 8th, 2018 at 1:57pm
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Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
You're speaking loud and clear on what you think of other small countries that have been destroyed by the US.

It's a clear expression of hate and so I can't accept that you want to leave them alone.

These countries are insignificant.

They have failed governments and failed economies as a result of their failed governments. That's why I want to leave them alone. 

Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
I'm asking you why you are expressing such seething hatred toward other people in other countries, or even those people's countries, however you want to spin it?

The premise of the question is flawed.  It's like asking me if I still enjoy beating women.
I have NEVER expressed hatred toward other people in other countries. It's their messed-up governments and lousy dictators that I don't like.

Don_G wrote on May 8th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
What is it that I said that has brought all this hate in you to the surface? I'm going to have to go back over what I said yesterday and see if I can find it. Then I can use it in the future to make you go crazy!

Don't waste your time.  Nothing you have said has had any influence on my ideologies - trust me.

Just because I call a place like Venezuela a shit-hole country doesn't mean I hate the People of Venezuela.

The place IS a shit-hole.   

"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck,.... it's a duck."    Smiley
  
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Re: Venezuela - A Dismal Socialist Failure
Reply #9 - May 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm
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[quote author=4C74665C77767A791F0 link=1525766520/8#8 date=1525802252]
Nothing you have said has had any influence on my ideologies - trust me.

Just because I call a place like Venezuela a shit-hole country doesn't mean I hate the People of Venezuela.

The place IS a shit-hole.   


[/quote]Your ideologies probably tell you that is that is "socialist" ideologies that FuKKde up Venezuela and made it a shithole for everybody but the "elites", who should be tried and hung?

Unless you like Maduro and his boy?
  
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