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We need to support Decentalise techology to ensure Humanity Freedom
May 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm
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Decentalise tech are ones that allow people to become self-sufficient. 3d-printer,solar panels, block chains etc
It allow people to less reliant on entities


With the rise of automation, corporations are producing more while cutting out humans services. We're already seeing a wealth disparity between the low skill labor and the high ones. Sooner or later there will be a crisis on how wealth is distributed, and knowing Democrats there going to advocate for a basic income, which people will approve. Eventually the upper class are going to become more powerful then the government and become the new oligarchy   or  socialism will turn into communism, and as evidence by North Korea and China, lead to Totalitarianism.

I help start the party party movement because I tried to Gain support for policies   to make progress in these endeavors. but so far no one even joined.
  

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Reply #1 - May 9th, 2018 at 5:22pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
Eventually the upper class are going to become more powerful then the government and become the new oligarchy...

Oligarchs who are protected by the government are called cronies. I don't know about them being "upper class", but they sure get rich, and so do their cronies in government.

The power lies with the control of force.

Currently (except maybe in Venezuela) governments still have control of the military and police, and they don't let any one oligarch get too powerful.

If you are just issuing some vague call to arms to attack the "upper class" now before they get too powerful, I hope you don't try it in China or Russia or the U.S. either.

BTW, 3D printing technology is advancing rapidly. The really capable machines are expensive, and I have no desire to learn how to use one. I'm happy that manufacturers are finding all sorts of ways to use them to make better products cheaper.
  
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Reply #2 - May 9th, 2018 at 5:43pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
...We're already seeing a wealth disparity between the low skill labor and the high ones.

Can you recall any period in history when this was not the case?

I sure can't.

Welcome to the forum, BTW.  Smiley
  
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Reply #3 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:06pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Can you recall any period in history when this not the case?

I sure can't.


The Soviet Union? I mean except for the party and their cronies... China under Mao? Please don't tell me Mao allowed Engineers to be paid more than Construction Laborers or Farmers or Poets?

Edit: Poets probably weren't allowed... Sorry.
  
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SkyChief wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Can you recall any period in history when this not the case?

I sure can't.

Welcome to the forum, BTW.  Smiley


Sorry, I meant particularly the increase of low skill level and unemployment then  the actual disparity based off wealth equality

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Reply #5 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:35pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Sorry, I meant particularly the increase of low skill level...
That's a strange way to say that people aren't learning skills.

Why do they expect someone to hire them and pay them big bucks and benefits?
  
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Reply #6 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:39pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Sorry, I meant particularly the increase of low skill level and unemployment then  the actual disparity based off wealth equality

https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk...


You've experienced the low end hypocrites on this forum. Now stick around and try to explain your ideas more clearly. You might just have something interesting to say!

All the people on this forum aren't a total lost cause.
  
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Reply #7 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:41pm
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Jeff wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 5:22pm:
Oligarchs who are protected by the government are called cronies. I don't know about them being "upper class", but they sure get rich, and so do their cronies in government.

The power lies with the control of force.

Currently (except maybe in Venezuela) governments still have control of the military and police, and they don't let any one oligarch get too powerful.

If you are just issuing some vague call to arms to attack the "upper class" now before they get too powerful, I hope you don't try it in China or Russia or the U.S. either.

BTW, 3D printing technology is advancing rapidly. The really capable machines are expensive, and I have no desire to learn how to use one. I'm happy that manufacturers are finding all sorts of ways to use them to make better products cheaper.


Power of force isn't needed if you own the mean of production. If  no longer useful and at the Mercy of your new gods, is the first though to revolt? Unless they want to starve, No. So in others words they would stay in power indefinitely

Otherwise communism which essentially one company

I named this "Support decentalise tech.."  for a reason. 3-d and  solar panel have a marketable demand, but then thier stuff like ad hoc based internet which no one in thier right mind would invest in. Free internet, no cash back.

  

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Reply #8 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:48pm
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You've experienced the low end hypocrites on this forum. Now stick around and try to explain your ideas more clearly. You might just have something interesting to say!

Fresh meat, huh,  Don_G.?   I'm betting Kevin won't let himself get get sucked into your moonbat troll nonsense.
  
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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm
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Jeff wrote on May 9th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
That's a strange way to say that people aren't learning skills.

Why do they expect someone to hire them and pay them big bucks and benefits?


They are but That kind of the thing. We're destroying more job then we can create. So the more people who train for those high skill job, the more competitive it will be. Driving down cost, influence, importance etc

Besides schools aren't exactly a charity
  

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