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Re: We need to support Decentalise techology to ensure Humanity Freedom
Reply #20 - May 10th, 2018 at 2:45pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
You support California mandating solar panels. Something I also approve. So there that...

This is interesting. A libertarian who advocates a more powerful government and compulsory mandates on a private citizen's home.

Has libertarianism somehow morphed into something else?

The LP should have notified me of this!   Angry

Just curious... Do you support Income Tax?
  
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Reply #21 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:03pm
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Jeff wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
Tell that to all the business owners whose businesses failed.

You mean when most people have MONEY to decide if they want to buy from them?
Or after the fact when winners are picked & were we live in the world of the love child of Kurt Vonnegut's player piano and Orwell's ninety-eighty-four?
  

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Reply #22 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:08pm
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Jeff wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
You're a Luddite and economically illiterate too?


Luddites: belief that machine destroy job without creating them

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/automation-could-impact-375-million-jobs-by-20...

Nope, just saying we should own our type of automation then trust a 3 party


  

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Jeff wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
No, the government requires that productive people (usually property owners) pay for schools, but insist that everyone be allowed to go whether their parents pay any taxes or not, which is a good idea.


Which again go to my second argument:the remaining jobs will become saturated with candidates

Also try telling that to Trump
  

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Reply #24 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:13pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Luddites: belief that machine destroy job without creating them

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/automation-could-impact-375-million-jobs-by-20...

Nope, just saying we should own our type of automation then trust a 3 party


Go for it. Buy the best 3D printer you can afford, or build your own.

Advances in technology have always "destroyed jobs".

Without farming machinery, almost everybody would be forced to work as farmers in order to have enough food, and there wouldn't be any surpluses to send to N. Korea to stave off their "socialist" induced famines. Cry
  
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Reply #25 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:15pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
You mean when most people have MONEY to decide if they want to buy from them?
Or after the fact when winners are picked & were we live in the world of the love child of Kurt Vonnegut's player piano and Orwell's ninety-eighty-four?
What? Your complaint is nobody's giving you money?
  
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Re: We need to support Decentalise techology to ensure Humanity Freedom
Reply #26 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:23pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
This is interesting. A libertarian who advocates a more powerful government and compulsory mandates on a private citizen's home.

Has libertarianism somehow morphed into something else?

The LP should have notified me of this!   Angry

Just curious... Do you support Income Tax?


I have no opinions on income tax, sorry

But Afaik, people tend to be lazy unless push by a external force. And well I just see this as a mean to a end. I usually don't approve of governmental push, but in this case people would rely less on government then needing  them  to help pay their bills etc

In other words if it mean being force to do something now. But tomorrow became stronger to say No next time. So be it

At least that mine rational
  

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Reply #27 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm
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Jeff wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 3:13pm:
Go for it. Buy the best 3D printer you can afford, or build your own.

Advances in technology have always "destroyed jobs".

Without farming machinery, almost everybody would be forced to work as farmers in order to have enough food, and there wouldn't be any surpluses to send to N. Korea to stave off their "socialist" induced famines. Cry


I think your missing the point. Unlikes back then, today tech don't require any human input. In fact their already software that are better negotiaters then humans.

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/08/18/ai-facebook-artificial-intelligence-machine-l...

While Decentralise tech is very underfunded compared to owners investment into these type of advancement

We already can grow our own food at a rapid rate. But are you ever to get the device to allow you to take control of it. No, because their no economic incentives when they can do business with Monopolies.
  

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Reply #28 - May 10th, 2018 at 3:32pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
I have no opinions on income tax, sorry

But Afaik, people tend to be lazy unless push by a external force. And well I just see this as a mean to a end. I usually don't approve of governmental push, but in this case people would rely less on government then needing  on them for help pay their bills etc

In other words if it mean being force to do something now. But tomorrow became stronger to say No next time. So be it

At least that mine rational


Billie's real name is Craig Sickler. Both he and skychief are pseudo-libertarians with some pretty far out ideas about income taxation. They think it can be eliminated.

I'm here to try to force them closer to 'real' libertarian ideals and I'll get specific on what those are. Every time that either of them say something crazy, I'll jump on them.

If you have no feelings about income taxation than I see that as perfectly normal.

And in fact, the skychief wants to bring in a whole bunch of new taxes to complicate matters even more.

Ask him about his ambitions on taxation and he'll tell you all about it.
  
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Re: We need to support Decentalise techology to ensure Humanity Freedom
Reply #29 - May 10th, 2018 at 5:14pm
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Kevin_Fischer wrote on May 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
I think your missing the point. Unlikes back then, today tech don't require any human input.
Red, is this a "break with reality"?

Which "mental disorder" does this person have? Thanks.
  
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