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Don_G
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Stealing Workers' Money
May 13th, 2018 at 6:26pm
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https://www.rt.com/business/426592-walmart-ceo-huge-salary/

If the US doesn't soon start thnking about socially responsible capitalism, the people will move all the way to socialist reform.

If there is any third party in the wings then this is going to be what they are all about. Libertarians will quickly drop the LP wet dreams and join a bloodless revolution.

But with the number of guns in the hands of very unhappy and angry people, it could turn bloody very quickly.
  
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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2018 at 6:38pm
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1,200 times the median worker!

In its latest filing, Walmart disclosed that company CEO Doug McMillon’s total compensation rose two percent in 2017 to $22.8 million. Meanwhile, the firm’s median employee earned $19,177 in the same period.

To say that leftists want to steal other people's money has to be akin to supporting Nazism.
  
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2018 at 7:05pm
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Dolt.

Better to talk about the huge amounts of wealth stolen from the N. Koreans by the Kim regime, or the massive wealth transfers to Venezuelan strong men and their cronies, or Russian strong men and their cronies.

At least Walmart can go out of business if they screw up.
  
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Reply #3 - May 13th, 2018 at 7:20pm
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Jeff wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Dolt.

Better to talk about the huge amounts of wealth stolen from the N. Koreans by the Kim regime, or the massive wealth transfers to Venezuelan strong men and their cronies, or Russian strong men and their cronies.

At least Walmart can go out of business if they screw up.


You can talk about N.K. and the kim regime all you like. You won't change the fact that the US is the most evil aggressor of the 21st. century by far. And it won't change the fact that you ordinary middle class Americans and poor Americans are being taken to the cleaners by your greedy capitalist system.
  
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Re: Stealing Workers' Money
Reply #4 - May 13th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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Stealing Worker's Money...

The government has intstitutionalized stealing worker's money.

It's called Income Tax.

Workers are furious.  As they should be.

We're long overdue for real Tax reforms.
  
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Reply #5 - May 13th, 2018 at 7:59pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Stealing Worker's Money...

The government has intstitutionalized stealing worker's money.

It's called Income Tax.

Workers are furious.  As they should be.

We're long overdue for real Tax reforms.


Income tax isn't ever going away so the best thing to try to do is reform it so that it isn't theft of the middle class and poor people's money.

You can start talking about the injustice of a CEO earning 1200 times the median worker or you can just ignore it and keep up your useless libertarian babbling.

One of the biggest problems with the LP is that they are supported by very wealthy people in order to make sure ordinary people are kept down. And stupid libertarians like you just lap it up.
  
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Reply #6 - May 13th, 2018 at 10:10pm
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1,200 times the median worker!


So? Those workers agree to work there for that salary. If they don't like it, they can find another job that pays more.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2018 at 12:25am
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Income tax isn't ever going away so the best thing to try to do is reform it so that it isn't theft of the middle class and poor people's money.

You can start talking about the injustice of a CEO earning 1200 times the median worker or you can just ignore it and keep up your useless libertarian babbling.

There is no way to reform it so that it isn't theft of the middle class and poor people's money.

The government forcibly taking money/wealth/property from a citizen will ALWAYS be theft.
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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:23am
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The Opposition wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
So? Those workers agree to work there for that salary. If they don't like it, they can find another job that pays more.


Or they can organize and join a union. Except that the ruling class have made it almost impossible for workers to belong to a union that has teeth. 'Right to work laws' are designed to do that.

The only other sollution for ordinary working people is to break through the wall of brainwashing and propagandizing they have received from their corrupt government and demand 'socially' responsible change.

The US's military plunders of war provides the material wealth, or has at least so far, but the US system doesn't share the wealth among the people. This is why libertarian wet dreams are created.

Hang in there. Bernie Sanders got dangerously close and it's easy to see how he was demonized in order to prevent it happening again.  And Trump promised socially responsible change but lied to his simple minder followers.
  
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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:30am
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SkyChief wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 12:25am:
There is no way to reform it so that it isn't theft of the middle class and poor people's money.

The government forcibly taking money/wealth/property from a citizen will ALWAYS be theft.


Calling it theft is extremist nonsense, but allowing the very wealthy to control government is akin to theft.

Income taxation can be done in a way in which lower earners are taxed nothing or close to nothinig. Then, the beauty of income taxation is that it can increase as the amount of money earned increases.

The LP wouldn't exist if a fair formula for taxing all the people existed. That's what the libertarian party really wants but Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that it's stealing money from the wealthy to make them pay their fair share.

That fair share could be as high as 80% taxation in the extreme and all the way down to zero in the case of the poor.

It also gives the poor an incentive to try to earn money!
  
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