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Reply #30 - May 25th, 2018 at 8:36am
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White guilt got Obama elected.  That and some people thought he was a messiah.  How else do you explain him being elected president with so little experience?  It's not like the Dems didn't have other choices besides him and Hillary.
  
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Reply #31 - May 25th, 2018 at 12:56pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 8:36am:
White guilt got Obama elected.  That and some people thought he was a messiah.  How else do you explain him being elected president with so little experience?  It's not like the Dems didn't have other choices besides him and Hillary.


In fact Ruby, the rest of the world will remember Obama as one of the finest US presidents. I certainly will.

The lion's share of Americans' dissent against Obama is based on racism. It's provable in that it's concentrated in the most racist states.

But not to discount the hate for Obama amongst your country's hawks. His success on Syria has led to a very large amount of hate for him in those circles. I'll bet you yourself are a part of that!

Obama allowed Russia to get it's foot in the door in the ME. The US hawks know that there is not turning back on that fact. Russia and China were empowered during Obama's terms. Hawks will see that as treason. Real libertarians won't have much to say about it because of the racist hating that prevents them.
  
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Reply #32 - May 25th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 12:56pm:
In fact Ruby, the rest of the world will remember Obama as one of the finest US presidents. I certainly will.
Why? That's a legitimate question.
  
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Reply #33 - May 25th, 2018 at 8:12pm
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Obama will only be remembered as the first black president.  His signature accomplishment, Obamacare, is a dismal failure.  My husband and I lost our insurance because we just couldn't afford the sky high premiums.  The, "Affordable" Care Act was a lie.
  
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Reply #34 - May 25th, 2018 at 8:20pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
Obama will only be remembered as the first black president.  His signature accomplishment, Obamacare, is a dismal failure.  My husband and I lost our insurance because we just couldn't afford the sky high premiums.  The, "Affordable" Care Act was a lie.


It was destroyed by big business and Americans get their comeuppance for allowing big business to do it.

Some day another Obama will come along and give you universal health care like the most successful systems in the world.

We in other countries don't care when but we definitely use your failed system as an example of what could be if we cave to the rabid right.

For profit health care can never come close to competing with universal government run health care.

Cue the bullshit that Canadians are going to the US here!
  
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Reply #35 - May 25th, 2018 at 11:08pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
  My husband and I lost our insurance because we just couldn't afford the sky high premiums.  The, "Affordable" Care Act was a lie.

Same here, Ruby.

My wife and I had an excellent health-care plan designed especially for us.  But when ObamaCare passed, suddenly our plan didn't meet standards. We were notified by our HMO that our Health Care Plan was terminated. 

They offered us  a "new, revised" plan that DID meet ACA requirements, but it was nearly twice as expensive as our old plan  - we simply couldn't afford it.    So we were forced to drop out.  We can no longer afford Health Care.

THANKS BARRY!!!   YOU P.O.S.   Angry

Socialized Health Care sucks.   Sad
  
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Reply #36 - May 25th, 2018 at 11:32pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Same here, Ruby.

My wife and I had an excellent health-care plan designed especially for us.  But when ObamaCare passed, suddenly our plan didn't meet standards. We were notified by our HMO that our Health Care Plan was terminated. 

They offered us  a "new, revised" plan that DID meet ACA requirements, but it was nearly twice as expensive as our old plan  - we simply couldn't afford it.    So we were forced to drop out.  We can no longer afford Health Care.

THANKS BARRY!!!   YOU P.O.S.   Angry

   Sad


Little doubt that your plan had fine print that basically said you weren't covered for a suitable amount. That's the reason why the coverage didn't qualify. But you've got your mind made up about socialized health care so you'll never admit.

When you say the following, you show that you've got a closed mind on the subject.

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Socialized Health Care sucks.


The rest of the world says otherwise. Enjoy your over priced and inadequate insurance coverage.

If some time in the future you get just fking tired of the bullshit they're shovelling down your patriotic throat, come to Canada and we'll give yoiu higher rated health care for about $125 a month for a man and his wife.

No shit Chief!

Tell Ruby and make her day for her. I love to hear her go off!
  
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Reply #37 - May 26th, 2018 at 1:14am
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Sicklers Dink wrote on May 25th, 2018 at 11:32pm:
. Enjoy your over priced and inadequate insurance coverage.

Huh?  We no longer have coverage.  The ER at the local hospital is our only health coverage now.

Thanks to ObamaCare.

And for that, we are eternally grateful...   We're saving $730/mo without Health Insurance!

More money to put into the Piper PA-28.  She's (over)due for for a scheduled overhaul (1850 hours SMOH)

“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher
  
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Reply #38 - May 26th, 2018 at 1:30pm
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SkyChief wrote on May 26th, 2018 at 1:14am:
Huh?  We no longer have coverage.  The ER at the local hospital is our only health coverage now.


Really? No wonder you hate your government!  I had no idea that you are too poor to buy health care insurance!

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Thanks to ObamaCare.


Thanks to big corporations destroying Obama's attempts to make your country close to equal to the rest of the world's wealthy countries.

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And for that, we are eternally grateful...   We're saving $730/mo without Health Insurance!


I hope it works out for you and your wife. But alas, it nearly always doesn't as you enter old age. You're probably staring bankruptcy in the face. Will you have to shoot your wife in the back of her head when she's not aware, and then shoot yourself too?

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More money to put into the Piper PA-28.  She's (over)due for for a scheduled overhaul (1850 hours SMOH)


Crashing your plane with your wife aboard is another solution!

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“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher


The trouble with that theory as it concerns health care is that it hasn't happened in any of those countries that have government run universal health care.

Maybe next yeat, who knows? I've got a hunch that the crunch is going to come to the US privatized for profit system sooner. Just guessing though.

The trouble with depending on big corporations for social benefits is that you run out of the kind of big money they're interested in. Then, like you, you get told to take a hike to the ER.
  
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