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Reply #160 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:04pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 2:43pm:
Free markets are in fact self regulating. Bad businesses get forced out of business by competition that is better.


Some do. US health care hasn't been chased out of business. No competition has stepped forward that offers better. Socialist policies such as ER's take up the slack. That is, government takes up the slack.

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Contrast that with government controlled economies where bad business are supported by tax handouts and never go out of business as long as they keep paying off their cronies in government.


Would Universal health care in all the modern first world countries fit that description? In case you forgot, they're all rated as being superior to the US health care.

Would you prefer to talk about another example? Get back to me if you do.



  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #161 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 11:14pm
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dink, i'm surprised that someone who pretends to be libertarian attacks the second amendment rights of others.
[t is the basis of all other rights.
our guns are our last defense against tyranny.
  

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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #162 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 9:53am
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Some do. US health care hasn't been chased out of business. No competition has stepped forward that offers better. Socialist policies such as ER's take up the slack. That is, government takes up the slack.


Would Universal health care in all the modern first world countries fit that description? In case you forgot, they're all rated as being superior to the US health care.

Would you prefer to talk about another example? Get back to me if you do.



Try picking something where the market is free to offer competition and the government is not already heavily involved in the market.

Eye care in the U.S. has been a relatively free market, and it is marked by lots of competition, which has driven prices down and the quality of care up. It helps that most insurance plans have not covered eye care, so people have had to pay for their own glasses/contacts/laser surgery.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #163 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:18am
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susieqz wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 11:14pm:
dink, i'm surprised that someone who pretends to be libertarian attacks the second amendment rights of others.
[t is the basis of all other rights.
our guns are our last defense against tyranny.


He won't give me a straight answer on whether a few lives saved is more important than freedom every time, or just in the case of guns.

He's typical of people on this forum. He won't apply principles consistently or even establish what principles he speaks from. "The rights I like, but NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #164 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:23am
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susieqz wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 11:14pm:
dink, i'm surprised that someone who pretends to be libertarian attacks the second amendment rights of others.
[t is the basis of all other rights.
our guns are our last defense against tyranny.


Actually I don't. I'm just concerned for the well being of people in my country and it's because the US influence isn't being contained in the US.

When you americans rise up against the system that is enslaving you, you will need your guns. Think of how the Cuban people or the Russian people needed their guns when they needed to overthrow a corrupt system of government that made them paupers.

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Reply #165 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:25am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:18am:
He won't give me a straight answer on whether a few lives saved is more important than freedom every time, or just in the case of guns.




Can you rephrase that so I'll be able to understand just what you want answered. Just keep it a simple question with no vulcans or hippos. You'll get an answer that way!
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #166 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:29am
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When you americans rise up against the system that is enslaving you, you will need your guns. Think of how the Cuban people or the Russian people needed their guns when they needed to overthrow a corrupt system of government that made them paupers.

Well now, isn't that the non sequitur of the month!

The Cuban people and the Russian people had no constitutional protection to keep and bear arms.

And look what happened to them.
  
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Reply #167 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:36am
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Well now, isn't that the non sequitur of the month!

The Cuban people and the Russian people had no constitutional protection to keep and bear arms.

And look what happened to them.


You're confused. I'm talking about both the Cuban people and the Russian people being able to procure the arms they needed to bring about successful revolutions. Look how well that happened for the Cuban people. They successfully over threw a Mafia regime that was upheld by the US.

And look at the misery of the Russian people before their revolution. Then look at how they have slowly began to evolve from a communist system.

Now do you understand?
  
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Reply #168 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 1:41pm
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And look at the misery of the Russian people before their revolution. Then look at how they have slowly began to evolve from a communist system.
They weren't any worse off before the revolution than after, and the communists kept them in bondage for how long? And now their government is going the crony communist way, which is much better for the government and the cronies, but not for ordinary Russians.
  
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Reply #169 - Aug 16th, 2018 at 4:40pm
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36th reason that katija gruene would make an excellent (Co)President of the United States of America is because katija gruene campaigned as an independent Green Party member and there are more independents than there are Democrats and Republicans combined.
  
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