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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #20 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:20pm
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Most videogames are not evil, but I say use Amendment IX to ban videogames that photonicly and vocally condition the minds of persons to commit evil behaviors because people have a right to have freedom from evil behaviors.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:28pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:20pm:
Most videogames are not evil, but I say use Amendment IX to ban videogames that photonicly and vocally condition the minds of persons to commit evil behaviors because people have a right to have freedom from evil behaviors.


I'm impressed! But I wonder why libertarians have been stigmatized into not accepting that simple logic.

Shooters are inspired by violent video games to use their guns of their fellow Americans. And they're inspired to use the most effective guns to do it.

For those reasons the spooks are probably keeping a close eye on a couple of individuals on this forum.

A good and responsible reason for the owner to allow it to continue! It's better to know when they're ready to 'go off'.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #22 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:37pm
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Don_G, I'd say there's at least four "conditions" why those types of videogames, that are evil, are allowed to exist: 1, to be used by undercover law personnel to detect persons that could be conditioned to do shootings; 2, the United States Federal Government has great difficulty caring about youths (an example being of how Congress hasn't endorsed katija gruene and William Weld for President and Vice President respectfully) and so the United States Federal Government is therefore unfortunately and disappointingly allowing youths to kill each other to prevent youths from starving to death; 3, Congress takes money from corporations that make videogames that could perhaps be considered evil and might be skeptical how to regulate videogames because of Amendment I; and 4, the United States doesn't have yet a Constitutional Amendment to provide multipartisan education in particular multipartisan media philosophy education.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #23 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:25pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 7:26am:
The argument that violent comics, violent TV shows, violent movies and violent games "cause" children to become violent has been around since I was a child watching war movies and  Roadrunner cartoons and reading superhero comics and playing cowboys and Indians with the neighborhood kids. There has never been any evidence that it is true.

Second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer. It might slightly increase your chance of getting cancer if you work full time in a small poorly ventilated bar that allows smoking.

Even if you get lung cancer under those circumstances, you can't "prove" that the second hand smoke caused it, you might have gotten it anyway, or not.


Your argument might as well say that shooting someone dead didn't cause the death, because the fellow might have died anyway. You can't prove he wouldn't have suffered a heart attack that very moment anyway.

But if that's really your standard, and you're going to use that consistently, then you win. If you're really saying that's the fair standard (not the use of statistics to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the group of people exposed to second-hand smoke experience lung cancer at an increased rate too great to be explained by random chance) then that's the standard the court should use, and such a lawsuit against the game company should fail to award damages, even if every single person who plays the game shoots up a school.

Do you also believe that people who think they got cancer from second-hand smoke shouldn't get damages from the cigarette company, or that the people who smoked and got lung cancer before there was a warning label shouldn't get damages either?
  

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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #24 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:30pm
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I hope there aren't subliminal messages in media products that display evil behaviors.
  
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Reply #25 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:42pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:20pm:
Most videogames are not evil, but I say use Amendment IX to ban videogames that photonicly and vocally condition the minds of persons to commit evil behaviors because people have a right to have freedom from evil behaviors.
Who do you want to have enforce Title IX as it might apply to video game content, which bureaucracy?

Does Title IX apply to content? If so, is it limited to certain chosen media, or does it apply to all forms of expression?

People write really nasty books too...

Do you want Title IX to apply to books too?

And, it's critical to know, which bureaucracy will be doing the enforcing?

You think that's a good idea?
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #26 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 4:44pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Who do you want to have enforce Title IX as it might apply to video game content, which bureaucracy?

Does Title IX apply to content? If so, is it limited to certain chosen media, or does it apply to all forms of expression?

People write really nasty books too...

Do you want Title IX to apply to books too?

And, it's critical to know, which bureaucracy will be doing the enforcing?

You think that's a good idea?
You could jump in on this discussion lizard... Smiley Kiss
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #27 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 4:46pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:30pm:
I hope there aren't subliminal messages in media products that display evil behaviors.
Of course there are. Who did you think was in control of your mind? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy CheesyYou? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #28 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 9:16pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:20pm:
Most videogames are not evil, but I say use Amendment IX to ban videogames that photonicly and vocally condition the minds of persons to commit evil behaviors because people have a right to have freedom from evil behaviors.

The 9th Amendment states that there are other rights that may exist aside from the ones enumerated, and even though they are not listed, it does not mean they can be violated.

How would the 9th Amendment allow the ban of (certain) video games?
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #29 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:36am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Your argument might as well say that shooting someone dead didn't cause the death, because the fellow might have died anyway. You can't prove he wouldn't have suffered a heart attack that very moment anyway.

People have been trying to make a statistical connection between violent comics, violent lyrics, violent games etc. etc. for half a century, and they have been unable to do it.

Violent crime has been falling for quite a few years in the U.S., what's the explanation for that? Violent video games certainly seem common...
  
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