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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #40 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 12:09pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:24pm:
Should companies that make rock and mountain climbing equipment be held liable if you get hurt or killed climbing rocks?


Yes! If they make a dangerous product as tobacco is dangerous. This is the reason for laws and regulations. A rock climbing company must not be allowed to make faulty equipment that will endanger the lives of the people who use it.

The responsibility to be safe isn't totally on the user and it's not totally on the company. It's a shared responsibility.

What if they made climbing rope that broke at less weight than it's stated to hold?

Dead Americans splattered all over the rocks!

Libertarianism can never succeed because of this one reason alone. They don't believe in regulations. Never mind the hundreds of other reasons why it can never succeed. duhhhh!  Embarrassed
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #41 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 12:14pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:01am:
No. Why do you think they should?

People smoked tobacco before tobacco companies existed. Not long after Europeans started importing tobacco, it was noted that it caused health problems.

Tobacco companies were created to fill a demand, which is what they still do.

People make choices.

If you choose to eat two dozen large chocolate chip cookies every day, because you ate a chocolate chip cookie when you were young and really liked it, and you got addicted to the cookies and the sugar and the chocolate, and you became obese and got diabetes because while you were eating all those cookies, you never exercised, should someone "owe you damages"?


A better example would be: Does the church owe you compensation for addicting to religious superstitious beliefs.

Some christians have become convinced they are angels and jump off tall buildings. 911 was such an example. The family should be able to hod the church responsible.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #42 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 3:11pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
Yes! If they make a dangerous product as tobacco is dangerous.
Hammers have been used to kill people. Sometimes even people trying to use them properly hurt themselves with hammers.

Products in and of themselves are not dangerous. Being careless with them or misusing them can be, but it's the people who choose to use the products who assume the risk.

Cars are very dangerous products... Probably you think the manufacturer should be held responsible if you get hut using one?
  
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Reply #43 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 3:15pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
The responsibility to be safe isn't totally on the user and it's not totally on the company. It's a shared responsibility.

What if they made climbing rope that broke at less weight than it's stated to hold?


That rope would be a defective product, or one that was falsely advertised to do something it can't.

There can be benefits for some people from smoking tobacco. Perhaps it calms them down, relieves there anxieties and makes their life better in that way... But tobacco isn't advertised that way. People have known is has potential health hazards for a very long time. If you choose to use a potentially dangerous product, you assume the risk.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #44 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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It seems hypocritical of Dong to support using Amendment IX to ban media "products", that condition person(s) to commit evil behavior(s), given Dong's reply of that "That statement is fatally flawed right from the start." that was a reply to my reply of "Don_G, totally and completely read 1.0 of PERSONAL LIBERTY located here:

https://www.lp.org/platform/

I'd say that 1.0 is a good idea to reduce killing.".

http://www.libertariansforum.com/cgi-bin/freedom/YaBB.pl?num=1512929132/390

And it seems hypocritical of some "Libertarians" that oppose using Amendment IX to ban media "products", that condition person(s) to commit evil behavior(s), given that Libertarians support that 1.0 belief. 

I wouldn't be opposed to Congress regulating media products such as books; books that encourage first degree murder to occur shouldn't be given copyright protection "as useful works " or as "useful arts"; they should be banned.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #45 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:16pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
It seems hypocritical of Dong to support using Amendment IX to ban media "products", that condition person(s) to commit evil behavior(s)
People can be "conditioned " to be evil? You think? Wouldn't you have to start with a blank slate?

And you're saying bullshit Title IX regulations is how it's being done?

That's scary!

Do you have proof?
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #46 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 10:30pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:01am:
No. Why do you think they should?

People smoked tobacco before tobacco companies existed. Not long after Europeans started importing tobacco, it was noted that it caused health problems.

Tobacco companies were created to fill a demand, which is what they still do.

People make choices.

If you choose to eat two dozen large chocolate chip cookies every day, because you ate a chocolate chip cookie when you were young and really liked it, and you got addicted to the cookies and the sugar and the chocolate, and you became obese and got diabetes because while you were eating all those cookies, you never exercised, should someone "owe you damages"?


Thank you for that explanation. It's been noted.
  

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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #47 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:49pm
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Smoking or chewing tobacco is a waste of time; and I'm undecided as to whether a tobacco business should be sued because: there might've been (and still might be) subliminal broadcasting of advertisements to get people to smoke or chew tobacco; but, there are now warnings on packages of chew tobacco and on smokeable tobacco of dangerous effects, and tobacco smells gross; and smoking tobacco is a potential wildfire danger because of careless persons dropping burning cigar(ette)(s) onto ground(s) or furniture or floor.
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #48 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:07pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
Smoking or chewing tobacco is a waste of time; and I'm undecided as to whether a tobacco business should be sued because: there might've been (and still might be) subliminal broadcasting of advertisements to get people to smoke or chew tobacco
In what third world country? Russia?

I agree though that vaping is best.. although I dip too and will smoke a pipe if things get desperate.

I blame my parents generation and other dead people even further back. Hugh Hefner! There were a lot of tobacco ads in Playboy! Capitalism is the culprit! Hedonistic evil capitalism!

To be honest, all of the blame has to be placed on Native Americans.

They discovered the damn shit and turned the Europeans on to it, got them hooked as dealers will always do, and that leads directly to my addiction and lamentable unjustified early demise. Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

They should have to pay reparations out of their casino earnings.! That's what I think! Angry
  
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Re: Active Shooter - The Video Game - Should It Be Banned?
Reply #49 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:11pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
, there are now warnings on packages of chew tobacco and on smokeable tobacco of dangerous effects, and tobacco smells gross; and smoking tobacco is a potential wildfire danger...

In the 30 + years I have been buying/smoking cigars, I have never see a warning of any kind about the dangerous effects of smoking tobacco.

Are cigars exempt for some reason?
  
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