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Reply #10 - May 30th, 2018 at 12:06pm
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ahhell wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 11:34am:
A.  The US does have a problem with police brutality, mostly the result of court decisions that have made government employess unaccountable for their mistakes and grand juries/juries giving too much deference to cops unreasonable fear of citizens. 


B.  Quoting a Russian media outlets criticism of US police brutality is amusing. 




Criminals are armed to the teeth in the US and that brings with it the consequences of police brutality. You must realize that it results in a vicious circle of gun violence.

That vicious circle of violence extends to outside of law enforcement too. Everyone is aware of the other guy carrying a gun and so arm themselves accordingly.

I'm always interested in hearing your rational argument against what I say.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #11 - May 30th, 2018 at 2:20pm
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Cop's claimed fear of the populations is not justified by the facts.  Its fueled by an irresponsible media though, just as your belief that the the average law breaker is "armed to the teeth" is justified by a sensational media rather than reality.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #12 - May 30th, 2018 at 4:38pm
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Leftists see racism when others pretend to not see it.
Leftists pretend to see racism where normal people can't.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #13 - May 30th, 2018 at 4:39pm
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Criminals are armed to the teeth in the US...
Only in the "progressive" big city ghettos Dong.
  
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Reply #14 - May 30th, 2018 at 4:42pm
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ahhell wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 2:20pm:
Cop's claimed fear of the populations is not justified by the facts.  Its fueled by an irresponsible media though, just as your belief that the the average law breaker is "armed to the teeth" is justified by a sensational media rather than reality. 
To be fair, there are places where police are justified in being very nervous. The problem is made worse because, working where they do, they start to think everybody is a dirtbag, because they spend all day meeting dirtbags in the course of their jobs.

Most of America is not like that.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #15 - May 30th, 2018 at 5:04pm
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Jeff wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
To be fair, there are places where police are justified in being very nervous. The problem is made worse because, working where they do, they start to think everybody is a dirtbag, because they spend all day meeting dirtbags in the course of their jobs.

Most of America is not like that.

Sure but most cops have that attitude.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #16 - May 30th, 2018 at 5:16pm
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ahhell wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Sure but most cops have that attitude. 
Not in my experience.

I agree it's becoming more common as "movements" like Antifa and BLM and CFA (Commies for Anarchy) gain traction, and ghettos of young single Middle Eastern men are created in our cities, and philosophies like "earning money is theft" are taught to our children, but it hasn't spread to all of America. It's still pretty much limited to big "progressive" cities.
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #17 - May 30th, 2018 at 6:10pm
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Jeff wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 5:16pm:
Not in my experience.

I agree it's becoming more common as "movements" like Antifa and BLM and CFA (Commies for Anarchy) gain traction, and ghettos of young single Middle Eastern men are created in our cities, and philosophies like "earning money is theft" are taught to our children, but it hasn't spread to all of America. It's still pretty much limited to big "progressive" cities.
Nonsense.  As have mentioned, violence and crime in american are near a 50 year low.  Even if the your list of boogey men was on the rise, it isn't responsible for the us vs them mentality of cops.   

Even in the worst neighborhoods, cops have little reason to be afraid and certainly less reason than they had in the past.  There are not actually places where the cops are justified in the levels of fear required to beat or shoot unarmed men and children. 

The problem is a clear lack of accountability.  There is no repercussion for a cop that over reacts, unless you think paid leave is appropriate punishment. 
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #18 - May 30th, 2018 at 6:22pm
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Leftists see a white woman wearing a traditional Chinese dress as racist.  Never mind that the Chinese are perfectly allowed to wear blue jeans without being called, "racists."
  
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Re: It's Open Season on Americans
Reply #19 - May 30th, 2018 at 6:46pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
Leftists see a white woman wearing a traditional Chinese dress as racist.  Never mind that the Chinese are perfectly allowed to wear blue jeans without being called, "racists."

We are forced to deal with many double-standards.   

Wanda Sykes, a writer on the Roseanne TV show rage quit her job on the show after Barr tweeted the offensive "planet of the apes" slur against Valerie Jarrett.

But a just a few months ago, Sykes likened Trump to an orangutan!  Even though these slurs were virtually  identical, one person [Barr] is a racist, and the other [Sykes] is just being funny.

We must accept these double-standards.  They're not going away.
  
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