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Reply #10 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:43am
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 2nd, 2018 at 5:53pm:
True, Jeff, but this is the same way they have been measuring it, and it is showing progress, no doubt because of tax cuts and the easing of regulations.  Hilary would never have accomplished this, so I'm grateful that she lost the election.  Trump isn't the Libertarian president I would like, who would get rid of whole departments in government and pay off the national debt, but he isn't Hilary either.  We take our victories where we can get them.

It's the way they've been measuring unemployment since 1994 Ruby, which is when they defined people who have stopped looking for work/aren't looking for work as "not unemployed" even though they are most certainly unemployed.

Lots of things are being manipulated to make things look better than they are before the next elections. It's a tradition. The Soviet Union did it all  the time, lied about their economy. China does too. So does everybody in the EU.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 12:14pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:43am:
It's the way they've been measuring unemployment since 1994 Ruby, which is when they defined people who have stopped looking for work/aren't looking for work as "not unemployed" even though they are most certainly unemployed.

Lots of things are being manipulated to make things look better than they are before the next elections. It's a tradition. The Soviet Union did it all  the time, lied about their economy. China does too. So does everybody in the EU.


Ruby, Craig Sickler is right on most of it but he always tries to transfer his country's guilt onto other countries. Your re-education that I'm trying to bring you requires you to rise above that sort of hate propaganda. It serves no useful purpose and it's meant to serve an evil purpose of demonizing a future enemy.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:18pm
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Ruby, Craig Sickler is right on most of it but he always tries to transfer his country's guilt onto other countries. Your re-education that I'm trying to bring you requires you to rise above that sort of hate propaganda. It serves no useful purpose and it's meant to serve an evil purpose of demonizing a future enemy.
Countries don't have guilt. That's your collectivist mindset confusing you Dong.

Individuals make decisions.

Legitimately constituted governments empowered to make decisions on behalf of the country often make bad decisions, but the decisions are the responsibility of the people who make them, not "the country".

If you want to blame a specific group of people in the U.S. who have made decisions to go to war (starting with the Mexican War) blame "progressives". Libertarians are almost uniformly against war unless it is a war of self defense. And yes, "progressives" are very good at making up semi-plausible arguments that whichever war is essential for the continued existence of the nation.
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:11pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Countries don't have guilt. That's your collectivist mindset confusing you Dong.


You could be right in a sense but you can't change society's perception. Think of N.K. for example and try to place the blame on Kim alone. Nope!



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Individuals make decisions.


of course.

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Legitimately constituted governments empowered to make decisions on behalf of the country often make bad decisions, but the decisions are the responsibility of the people who make them, not "the country".


O.k! The people are responsible. This meshes quite nicely for my assertion that the people in the WTC had it coming. From your perception, the people in N.K. will have had it coming. (supposing the US starts a war)

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If you want to blame a specific group of people in the U.S. who have made decisions to go to war (starting with the Mexican War) blame "progressives". Libertarians are almost uniformly against war unless it is a war of self defense. And yes, "progressives" are very good at making up semi-plausible arguments that whichever war is essential for the continued existence of the nation.


It was Americans who started all the wars. I see no other distinctions.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 3:55pm
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You could be right in a sense but you can't change society's perception.
Where do you learn how society perceives things, on a day to day basis?

Which society?

There is a Society of Friends nearby to me, but not even all of them have the same perceptions of everything.

Ask Red about it while he's helping you with your learning disability.

Let me guess, you get the scoop on societies perceptions from the folks at RT.ru?
  
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O.k! The people are responsible. This meshes quite nicely for my assertion that the people in the WTC had it coming.
You really are an evil crappity smacker aren't you lizard?
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:27pm
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No Ruby, they changed the method of measuring unemployment when Trump took over. Didn't you know that either? Ask Sickler.


You need to stop pulling facts out of your ass, Don.
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:32pm
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Jeff, the government can only hide so much.  We are doing better and I know it's because of the Left losing power.  And the Left is going nuts.  If they get in power again, they will most certainly raise taxes and regulations, they never learn.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:35pm
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The people in the WTC were innocent victims, Don.  They didn't deserve to die.
  
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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:43pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:32pm:
Jeff, the government can only hide so much.
It seems they did a great job of hiding the real unemployment rate from you. In fact, it seems they have done a good job of hiding the real state of the economy from you. Did you read about GM?
  
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