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Reply #20 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 7:22pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:35pm:
The people in the WTC were innocent victims, Don.  They didn't deserve to die. 


Craig Sickler said: Quote:
Legitimately constituted governments empowered to make decisions on behalf of the country often make bad decisions, but the decisions are the responsibility of the people who make them, not "the country".


It seemed quite alright to say that when he was talking about other countries. Keep this lesson in your head as part of your education.

Learn that you can't have it both ways.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:25am
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 7:22pm:
It seemed quite alright to say that when he was talking about other countries. Keep this lesson in your head as part of your education.

Learn that you can't have it both ways.
You were talking about countries being guilty.

I already explained that when I speak of China, unless I say the Chinese people, I mean the Chinese government.

Everyone within a nations government does not participate in every government decision, so it's not even technically correct to say a government is guilty. A system of government can be good or bad, but it's not really guilty. The people who make the decisions are individually guilty. Even though it's conventional to speak of the crimes of Communism, it is actually the crimes of individuals working with a communist system.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:26pm
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So you don't think the tax cuts and reduced regulations had any effect on the economy, Jeff?
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:54pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:25am:
You were talking about countries being guilty.

I already explained that when I speak of China, unless I say the Chinese people, I mean the Chinese government.

Everyone within a nations government does not participate in every government decision, so it's not even technically correct to say a government is guilty. A system of government can be good or bad, but it's not really guilty. The people who make the decisions are individually guilty. Even though it's conventional to speak of the crimes of Communism, it is actually the crimes of individuals working with a communist system.


The German people bear the guilt of allowing the Nazi party to come to power. Even though they may have been powerless to prevent it they still stand responsible for their country's evil deeds.

The situation is exactly the same with the American people electing Trump. If Trump is able to start a major war that turns nuclear, there won't be any question on who was to blame. The American people will suffer the consequences.


  
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Reply #24 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 4:04pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
So you don't think the tax cuts and reduced regulations had any effect on the economy, Jeff?
It seems that they have, but the regulatory reductions were done by executive order and are temporary, and the tax cuts were coupled with promised future spending increases with no reductions of current spending.
  
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Reply #25 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 4:09pm
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Sicklers Dink wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
The German people bear the guilt of allowing the Nazi party to come to power.
Some of them who were alive at the time were rash and foolish because they were suffering under a severe recession/depression caused mainly by what was imposed on Germany at the end of WWI.

German Jews don't possibly bear any of the "group responsibility" you imagine, and Hitler didn't sweep into power on a massive majority in a popular vote election.

Why do you think Hitler had to institute a pervasive police state in Germany? (Hint: Because so many Germans opposed him!)

BTW, take your own advice and stay on topic.
  
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Reply #26 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 5:45pm
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It seems that they have, but the regulatory reductions were done by executive order and are temporary, and the tax cuts were coupled with promised future spending increases with no reductions of current spending.


And that's a shame, Jeff.  You can only do so much when so much of Congress is made up of big spenders.
  
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Reply #27 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 5:48pm
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The Germans who voted the Nazi party in are responsible for Nazi atrocities, no one else are.  Germans today are not guilty of something that happened before they were born.
  
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Reply #28 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:48pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
And that's a shame, Jeff.  You can only do so much when so much of Congress is made up of big spenders.
It is a shame. The Constitution was supposed to make it impossible to spend big in the ways our Congress' have since the 1930s...

The economy hasn't felt the effects of the import tariffs yet... Just wait. They wont be good effects.
  
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Reply #29 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 6:21am
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Question is, will other countries be willing to feel the hurt as well? 

And how do we get China to stop stealing our intellectual property.
  
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