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Re: War Powers Act Doesn't Work
Reply #10 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 10:51am
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Laws work well in my country! Would you like to come and visit. You can come for dinner! Then I can cut your head off after dinner! Your mother said I should.

I found her to be a very nice lady.

~the big dong.

The adults were talking, Don_G.  Now go to your room.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 11:48am
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 10:51am:
The adults were talking, Don_G.  Now go to your room.


Oppo was talking and he's only 14.
And you have the mentality of a 6 year old when you post pictures of laughing men in an attempt to irritate me.

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Re: War Powers Act Doesn't Work
Reply #12 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 12:59pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:59am:
There hasn't been a declared war since WWII Chief.

Good point.  Clinton and Obama flagrantly violated the War Powers Act.

Should they have been held accountable?  If so, by whom?

Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 6:59am:
It's certainly arguable that the Mexican War was unconstitutional. The Spanish American War too... And WWI.

I'm basing that on the idea that the Constitution authorizes Congress to declare war only in defense of the U.S.

Yes,  Wilson gets my vote as the worst President in US history.  He promised America's neutrality in WW I.  In fact, that was his campaign promise that won him a second term.  And he broke it.    It was no secret that German U-boats were sinking everything that were bold enough to sail into British waters. 

So Wilson brazenly sent US merchant ships to Britain with supplies, knowing that only a few, if none of these ships would be able to penetrate the U-boat patrols.

As soon as the reports came in that American ships were sunk by German U-boats,  Wilson begged Congress to go to war.



  
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Reply #13 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:08pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Good point.  Clinton and Obama flagrantly violated the War Powers Act.

Should they have been held accountable?  If so, by whom?

Yes,  Wilson gets my vote as the worst President in US history.  He promised America's neutrality in WW I.  In fact, that was his campaign promise that won him a second term.  And he broke it.    It was no secret that German U-boats were sinking everything that were bold enough to sail into British waters. 

So Wilson brazenly sent US merchant ships to Britain with supplies, knowing that only a few, if none of these ships would be able to penetrate the U-boat patrols.

As soon as the reports came in that American ships were sunk by German U-boats,  Wilson begged Congress to go to war.





After the drinking comes the hangover and the feelings of guilt and depression. It's a great time for me to read what you say carefully in order to learn more about you.

Right now with this last post you're feeling a need to get some shots in against me on the topic of WW2 and how you want to make it clear that you feel your country shouldn't have came to the commonwealth's aid.

Good for you Chief. The only way you're going to be able to have a good day now is to stop posting and start drinking again.

Bite the bullet Chief and stop posting. It's the best you can do today!

Or do what I really want and spill your guts!
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:10pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Good point.  Clinton and Obama flagrantly violated the War Powers Act.

Should they have been held accountable?  If so, by whom?

Yes,  Wilson gets my vote as the worst President in US history.  He promised America's neutrality in WW I.  In fact, that was his campaign promise that won him a second term.  And he broke it.    It was no secret that German U-boats were sinking everything that were bold enough to sail into British waters. 

So Wilson brazenly sent US merchant ships to Britain with supplies, knowing that only a few, if none of these ships would be able to penetrate the U-boat patrols.

As soon as the reports came in that American ships were sunk by German U-boats,  Wilson begged Congress to go to war.





The other telling thing you said that shows I have a hold on you is that you missed condemning Bush2 and Bush1.
  
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Re: War Powers Act Doesn't Work
Reply #15 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:16pm
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The other telling thing you said that shows I have a hold on you is that you missed condemning Bush2 and Bush1.

No, that only shows your stupidity/ignorance.

Neither Bush Presidents violated the War Powers Act because each of them obtained Congressional approval before engaging in military intervention.
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:33pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 12:59pm:
Good point.  Clinton and Obama flagrantly violated the War Powers Act.

Should they have been held accountable?  If so, by whom?
Congress, but Congress never intended the War Powers Resolution to do anything but what it has done, allow Presidents to start wars.

The cure for that is to hold Congress accountable, which used to be easier before the 17th Amendment.

All we can do now is try to vote them out, and with the TwoParties having been granted control of the electoral process, that's very difficult.
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:47pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:33pm:
Congress, but Congress never intended the War Powers Resolution to do anything but what it has done, allow Presidents to start wars.

The cure for that is to hold Congress accountable, which used to be easier before the 17th Amendment.

All we can do now is try to vote them out, and with the TwoParties having been granted control of the electoral process, that's very difficult.


It's impossible! You have a choice of reforming either party or being a part of raising up an alternative. Forget libertarian, it's a dead horse.

There's still momentum in what Bernie tried to start. And some of that momentum is supporting Trump right now. That's the vulnerable faction that you people have to start working with.

Trump has doublecrossed them but you have to make them aware that they have been doublecrossed.

Your political system and politics is a lot more about spinning it for the people's consumption. They don't have to feel the benefits of their political choice, they just have to 'think' they are getting a leg up from their choice.

I would suggest that now's the time to start. That calls for you and the Chief to forget about the libertarian 'pie in the sky' that you both know can't lead anywhere.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:49pm
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There's still momentum in what Bernie tried to start.
Bernie is a used up Old Socialist who never had an idea of his own to begin with. He only looks good compared to Elizabeth Warren and Hillary.

The fact that you are willing to spend so much time running down libertarians gives me hope! Thanks Dong. Smiley

Edit: I thought the Democrats wanted to run that Hogg kid for President?
  
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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:57pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 3rd, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Bernie is a used up Old Socialist who never had an idea of his own to begin with. He only looks good compared to Elizabeth Warren and Hillary.


I agree that Bernie is used up. It's going to take a new 'socialist' like him.

As for the rest of your comments, it's obvious that it's time for me to end this discussion with you.

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The fact that you are willing to spend so much time running down libertarians gives me hope! Thanks Dong. Smiley


Except that you know I'm too smart to swallow that line. Libertarianism has nothing going for it that I could see as any sort of threat. Really Craig, the admission that it's an impossible ideology has already been blown!

  
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