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Reply #70 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 5:07pm
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You're so unkind Ruby. What have I ever said against you that isn't true?
Rational people don't just accept unfounded and unproven assertions as 'truth' Dork.


As far as I know, you've never said a true thing about anybody or anything.

Prove that I am wrong!

(Probably you should start another new thread to fill with all of your proofs. Thanks).

Try to start it off with important points so you don't end up replying to yourself again. Thanks Dork. Kiss
  
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Reply #71 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 6:51pm
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We all need to watch this:

The Cost of Dying: End-of-Life Care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xPBmkrn0g&t=72s
  
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Reply #72 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 10th, 2018 at 6:51pm:
We all need to watch this:

The Cost of Dying: End-of-Life Care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xPBmkrn0g&t=72s
I plan to opt out.

If my plan comes together, I 'll die right when my money runs out. Smiley

I did hedge my bets by buying long term care insurance...
  
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Reply #73 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:24am
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Reply #74 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 2:10pm
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30% of hospital stays are unnecessary, according to a doctor in that documentary.  It was stated, "Last year, Medicare paid $55 billion just for doctor and hospital bills during the last two months of patients' lives."  Jeff, what's it going to be like when baby boomers start dying off?
  
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Reply #75 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 2:20pm
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“Everyday I become more convinced, there is no doubt in my mind, and as many intellectuals have said, that it is necessary to transcend capitalism. But capitalism can’t be transcended from within capitalism itself, but through socialism, true socialism, with equality and justice. But I’m also convinced that it is possible to do it under democracy, but not in the type of democracy being imposed from Washington,”
Hugo Chavez.


He looked down on our economic system, which of course is not perfect, now look where his country is.  Americans are prospering while Venezuelans are starving.  Capitalism proves time and time again to be the way of prosperity, some people just don't want to see it.  And people suffer because of it.
  
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Reply #76 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 11:04pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 10th, 2018 at 6:51pm:
We all need to watch this:

The Cost of Dying: End-of-Life Care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xPBmkrn0g&t=72s


Even though 60 Minutes is a liberal outlet, I've found them very trustworthy about getting to the bottom of the issues.

This time has not been an exception and I commend them for a job well done.

The doctor was right - we already ration medical care; we just don't ration rationally.

When we talk about how someone dying of cancer must have that 200k defibrillator, we're ignoring the six other people dying who could be saved for that same money. Usually they're either uninsured, or underinsured. Sometimes they can be paying out hundreds of thousands for "bronze" plans that literally do nothing because they can't afford the outrageous deductibles.
  

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Reply #77 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:59am
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That doctor said something really profound: "Collectively as a culture, we really have to acknowledge that we're mortal, get over it."

Medicare is a huge driver of our national debt, maybe even the biggest driver.  The debt will have to be repaid, and our children and grandchildren will be stuck repaying it.  That is generational theft.  We talk about the younger generation having an entitlement mentality, but it seems that it isn't just the young who feel entitled. 

John Stossel also explored this topic:
Needy Seniors or Greedy Geezers? -- Stossel In The Classroom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtI6ZVOzWqQ
  
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Reply #78 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 8:57am
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
30% of hospital stays are unnecessary, according to a doctor in that documentary.  It was stated, "Last year, Medicare paid $55 billion just for doctor and hospital bills during the last two months of patients' lives."  Jeff, what's it going to be like when baby boomers start dying off?
They've already started Ruby, and because they are all "entitled" to Medicare, it is helping bankrupt the country and the working people who are paying for it all.
  
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Reply #79 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 12:25pm
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Yes, Baby Boomers are entitled to generational theft.  Ironic since it will be Millennials who will get stuck paying, and they're the generation that get's called, "entitled."
  
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