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Reply #10 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 3:05pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
You contrast "socialized medicine" with "heavily regulated medicine" and choose the "socialized" version as working better, but what you offer is a false choice, sort of like this-

http://reason.com/blog/2018/06/06/feinstein-breezes-to-victory-collapsing?utm_me...

If the choice is between a Democratic Socialist and a socialist Democrat, it's not really a choice...

In the realm of medical services, the best choice is a free market for those services, just as a free market for any sort of insurance is the best choice.


Government run universal health care has triumphed throughout the world and is the obvious answer for all the people.

US style 'for profit' healthcare is evil, greedy, and corrupt and has turned out to be the obvious loser.

You assholes are entitled to take your time on coming to face the truth. It's only greedy Americans that are suffering the consequences.

Leave it long enough and your president's Nazi tactics will solve the problem in another totally familiar way that was used by Nazis in the 30's. Death panels and then death camps for Americans. it saves 'your' money! You the taxpayer!
  
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Re: Homelessness in Nazi Germany
Reply #11 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:09pm
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Government run universal health care has triumphed throughout the world and is the obvious answer for all the people.

US style 'for profit' healthcare is evil, greedy, and corrupt and has turned out to be the obvious loser.

If we're such losers, why do Canadians come to the US for medical treatment?     Smiley

P.S.  I already know the answer to this question - most people do  - just wanted you to realize how ridiculous your statement is.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:39pm
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Government run universal health care has triumphed throughout the world and is the obvious answer for all the people.


thermie didn't tell you to say that Dong...

Bureaucrats are probably scrutinizing your posts and sending their conclusions to thermie... And I don't think he likes you... Shocked
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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US style 'for profit' healthcare is evil, greedy, and corrupt and has turned out to be the obvious loser.


Blah blah ha ha.

Tell us why China and Cuba have permitted certain special people to  earn profits?

The hope of profiting from your work, your labor of whatever sort, motivates people to work and create wealth.

When people are prohibited from profiting from their work, they pretend to work and create negative wealth. That's why Cubans have 1950's health care.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:42am:
It's what many governments were doing during the industrial revolution, 'guiding' their economies by choosing which crony companies should succeed and giving them special monopoly powers.

I suppose you imagine that governments are better now, filled with better people, so the choices they make about which businesses should be helped will be better? Yes, you probably do, you think all those huge bureaucracies are now filled with "socially responsible" people, selflessly making good decisions for everyone's benefit... That's delusional Dong.


I'm totally and completely convinced that your government is corrupt and will soon fail under Trump's leadership. Fascism/Nazism always fails but sadly it does great harm and evil to the world while it's allowed to exist.

This time Nazism/fascism/US greedy capitalism will not do as much great harm as fascism has done in the past. The rest of the world has large nuclear armed power that will stop the US quest for world domination.

Ironic that China, a communist country, will play such a large role is stopping the Nazism this time.
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:47pm
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I'm totally and completely convinced that your government is corrupt...
Please Dong, check with thermie before you post. I'm concerned for your safety! Shocked
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:20pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:47am:
You contrast "socialized medicine" with "heavily regulated medicine" and choose the "socialized" version as working better, but what you offer is a false choice, sort of like this-

http://reason.com/blog/2018/06/06/feinstein-breezes-to-victory-collapsing?utm_me...

If the choice is between a Democratic Socialist and a socialist Democrat, it's not really a choice...

In the realm of medical services, the best choice is a free market for those services, just as a free market for any sort of insurance is the best choice.


No, it's not. If facing a big payout, nothing prevents the insurance company from cutting and running.

I lived through Hurricane Andrew, though I was a kid. Remember, I was a genius kid, so I knew what was going on.

The insurance company said go %$&% yourself to my parents.

And to a lot of other people.

Now Florida has a regulated insurance industry with what I'm sure is a lot of cronyism and everything else shitty that regulation comes with.

Florida has those regulations now because free market insurance failed.
  

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Reply #17 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:26am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
No, it's not. If facing a big payout, nothing prevents the insurance company from cutting and running.

I lived through Hurricane Andrew, though I was a kid. Remember, I was a genius kid, so I knew what was going on.

The insurance company said go %$&% yourself to my parents.

And to a lot of other people.

Now Florida has a regulated insurance industry with what I'm sure is a lot of cronyism and everything else shitty that regulation comes with.

Florida has those regulations now because free market insurance failed.


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Reply #18 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:09am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
No, it's not. If facing a big payout, nothing prevents the insurance company from cutting and running.





Now Florida has a regulated insurance industry with what I'm sure is a lot of cronyism and everything else shitty that regulation comes with.

Florida has those regulations now because free market insurance failed.
Insurance markets were heavily regulated before the hurricane hit.

Free markets allow competition, which is mostly what the insurance market lacks, and competition forces companies to either provide better service or go out of business... But of course regulation will cause some insurance companies to go out of business too, not because they aren't providing good service, but because they aren't cronies.

That's how you get fewer and fewer insurance companies who can then tell customers to get screwed because they are huge and protected.
  
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Re: Homelessness in Nazi Germany
Reply #19 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 8:38am
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If we're such losers, why do Canadians come to the US for medical treatment?


Exactly!  I've made this point with him before, but he just ignores it.
  
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