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Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:34pm
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throw the frist ponch i belive is thje person to start the fight not the throw of the fist pounch what do yall belive
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:51pm
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thermf5 wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
throw the frist ponch i belive is thje person to start the fight not the throw of the fist pounch what do yall belive
It depends.

Call it a tort and take it to common law court.

Present your best arguments to the jury  and let them decide.

Edit: Fights sometimes start when a punch is thrown.
  
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thermf5 wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
throw the frist ponch i belive is thje person to start the fight not the throw of the fist pounch what do yall belive


Libertarians have a very binary view of aggression.

You can chase someone across the whole world, harass him and spew insults at him everywhere he goes, and when he finally punches you, you're completely innocent.

As long as you never go onto his property, steal his things, or punch him first, you're in the right and he's in the wrong.

However, if the person you're harassing has enough legal power, he'll sue you and win, even though you never aggressed.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:00am
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If I throw the first punch, then I was right to do so.

If the other guy throws the first punch, then he was wrong.

That's simple enough.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:09am
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SkyChief wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:00am:
If I throw the first punch, then I was right to do so.

If the other guy throws the first punch, then he was wrong.

That's simple enough.


The trouble is Chief, most Americans are cowardly and usually go for their guns first. That's a big part of why you need all your guns. You might be threatened by a big black guy and you don't want to just back down. Your guns are used as an equalizer.

In Canada you don't shoot your face off to anybody you judge you can't handle. Even moreso in Australia, you watch your mouth!
  
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The trouble is Chief, most Americans are cowardly and usually go for their guns first. That's a big part of why you need all your guns. You might be threatened by a big black guy and you don't want to just back down. Your guns are used as an equalizer.

In Canada you don't shoot your face off to anybody you judge you can't handle. Even moreso in Australia, you watch your mouth!

ur veiw on americans is y i hate most aus people there coul;te is repugnate and dont u allways cary a gun or a knife on u  those that dose repect freedom of spech deseve to die ir pc fashism need to die and if america was the place u made it out to be i would actualy like it if u like canda or aus stay there  i swere its people like u in my country that make me wana go to switerland where there is a rite to die and if every one was a seklf center self abosobred mofo and mind there own bizness me my self and i ur scum that just make u feal better ut like a person that enjoys watching jerry springer or mory it a sick man u know that u need to lean to relate to others not empathoize or grandstand to pit ur self in a nother persons thought proses to use restion and logic u dumb British imperialist scum
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:21am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Libertarians have a very binary view of aggression.

You can chase someone across the whole world, harass him and spew insults at him everywhere he goes, and when he finally punches you, you're completely innocent.

As long as you never go onto his property, steal his things, or punch him first, you're in the right and he's in the wrong.

However, if the person you're harassing has enough legal power, he'll sue you and win, even though you never aggressed.
Verbal assault and harassment are illegal lizard, because they are aggression, and I've never heard a 'libertarian' argument for making them legal.

There are differing opinions on what constitute "fighting words", so unless you are pretty sure, it's usually best not to punch someone.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:26am
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In Canada you don't shoot your face off to anybody you judge you can't handle. Even moreso in Australia, you watch your mouth!
Yes, Aussies are still allowed to carry knives... I think...

What if some Canadian you know you can't "handle" is threatening you with physical harm?
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:31am
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Jeff wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:21am:
Verbal assault and harassment are illegal lizard, because they are aggression, and I've never heard a 'libertarian' argument for making them legal.

i belive people careing abought u is agresstion and that every one should be appothic of one another dost thaT MEAN THAT THAT FROM OF AGRESSTION SHOULD BE ILLGLE NO IS IT IMORAL YES BUT MOST PEOPLE SEE IT AS GOOD AGREESTION IOER ANY LAW HAs to remove emocstion from the eqition but acount for thpought prosesses
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 8:15am
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thermf5 wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:31am:
i belive people careing abought u is agresstion
I don't care about you.
  
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