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Reply #210 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 8:30pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Is this more of that civilized conversation you promised? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Are you thinking of making a deal boss?
  
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Reply #212 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:00am
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Jeff wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 6:49am:

Guest Visas would solve all of these problems.  ^  ^  ^  ^

There cannot be any denial for asylum with the Guest Visa.  Not ever.  Because a Guest Visa is not conditional. It is sold to whoever wants to pay for it.(as long as they have no criminal/terrorist history)

Also, with a Guest Visa, employers don't need to fear hiring someone who's in the US "illegally" and risk losing their license to operate.  There will be no need to hire "under-the-table" workers. A worker with a Guest Visa is just as legal to hire as a citizen.
  
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Reply #213 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 12:28pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 6:49am:


I'm sure you're trying to make a point with me on a deal, but you haven't made it clear what that deal would be.

Your first link confirms my assertions that Trump is embarked on a Nazi like mission. The second seems to say that the US needs more immigrants.

Bugger off chief. Nobody's interested in your silly racist rambling on.
  
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Reply #214 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:19pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Guest Visas would solve all of these problems.  ^  ^  ^  ^

There cannot be any denial for asylum with the Guest Visa.  Not ever.  Because a Guest Visa is not conditional.
The sort of guest visas I have in mind are conditional. If you don't have a job offer or skills that can easily get you a job and resources to support yourself until you get a job, I'd say you don't get a visa.
  
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Reply #215 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:22pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
The sort of guest visas I have in mind are conditional. If you don't have a job offer or skills that can easily get you a job and resources to support yourself until you get a job, I'd say you don't get a visa.


You've caught the chief in a lie and that should be the end of his crap.

But it won't be.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #216 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 3:56pm
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You've caught the chief in a lie...

I disagree with his solution on this point, but his suggestion is not a "lie", it's an idea the Chief thinks is good and will work.

My disagreement doesn't make his position into a lie.

It can't, and neither can yours Dork.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #217 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 4:08pm
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Why is it being illegal to sneak into our country a bad law, Jeff?  They're going to come whether there's a law or not.  Or are you saying that having open borders would decrease immigration?  I highly doubt that.  In fact, I believe immigration would greatly increase.

Most illegal immigrants are poor, and poverty is linked to crime.  Therefore, more poverty more crime.  That's a very good reason to crack down on illegal immigration.  That and the fact that illegals are too often a net negative by contributing little and taking a lot.  It has to stop.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #218 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 4:23pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
Why is it being illegal to sneak into our country a bad law, Jeff?
We need young workers Ruby, and there are young workers wanting to come here badly enough to break the law to do it.

The law is bad because it prevents just the sort of people we need from coming here, and makes them into criminals to boot.

Our immigration laws are foolishly bad.

Edit: Maybe you are laboring under a misapprehension that pointing out that our immigration laws are bad means I support open borders? Do you think that?
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #219 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 4:48pm
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No Jeff, good workers can come here legally, and not sneak across our border.
  
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