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Reply #240 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:00am
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Illegal Immigration is so passé.  Guest Visas could fix it overnight.

Get ready for big changes in how we deal with this problem.

No stuffing the toothpaste back into the tube.

Guest Visas are in the future. Or the equivalent of one, anyways.


Sure, maybe the future! Let us know in a year or so how it's working out for you!

In the meantime the laughing man things are funnier and easier to suffer through.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #241 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:29am
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Sure, maybe the future! Let us know in a year or so how it's working out for you!
Immigrants want an easy, no-hassle way to legally come to the US. Citizenship is not important to most of them.  Many come here to escape the socialist shitholes they come from.

Guest Visas are the perfect solution.

The US already has a "Guest WORKER Visa [H-1B]", but it's too hard for immigrants to qualify for this because the immigrant must be highly skilled and have (at least) a bachelor's degree to qualify. Also, these visas are temporary and not renewable.

Guest Visas have no pre-requisites, and there is no limit on how many times they can be renewed. So immigrants can stay here indefinitely as long as they renew their Guest Visa each year.

Finally - real immigration reform.  Libertarian style!   Smiley
  
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Reply #242 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:38am
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Immigrants want an easy, no-hassle way to legally come to the US. Citizenship is not important to most of them.  Many come here to escape the socialist shitholes they come from.

Guest Visas are the perfect solution.

The US already has a "Guest WORKER Visa [H-1B]", but it's too hard for immigrants to qualify for this because the immigrant must be highly skilled and have (at least) a bachelor's degree to qualify. Also, these visas are temporary and not renewable.

Guest Visas have no pre-requisites, and there is no limit on how many times they can be renewed. So immigrants can stay here indefinitely as long as they renew their Guest Visa each year.

Finally - real immigration reform.  Libertarian style!   Smiley


Later chief. Right now your feelings are hurt.

Nearly everything you say to me compromises your 'professed' libertarianism. The Tucker Carlson thing was a reaction based on hurt feelings and you totally destroyed the 'open borders' concept by posting that.

Thankfullly, Tucker and West were able to set aside the extremism and find agreement on the issue. LOL.

I thoroughly enjoyed it!
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #243 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:33pm
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BobK71 wrote on Jun 20th, 2018 at 8:30am:
While I must admit this sounds like a beautiful solution, I dare predict that there would emerge two classes of residents, those with citizenship and the vote, and those without.  It wouldn't be too difficult, from that point, to predict who would do the work and pay the taxes, and who would receive state benefits, given how politics really works.

IMO, an open border, citizenship-on-demand system (like Brazil had for decades) might work, but the deep state would never allow it, as it would make us another Brazil and make it impossible to maintain their national bubble.


Yes, that policy was horrendous.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #244 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:44am
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BobK71 wrote on Jun 20th, 2018 at 8:30am:
While I must admit this sounds like a beautiful solution, I dare predict that there would emerge two classes of residents, those with citizenship and the vote, and those without.  It wouldn't be too difficult, from that point, to predict who would do the work and pay the taxes, and who would receive state benefits, given how politics really works.

Bob, the only time you have to worry about people voting themselves benefits is when the government is empowered to hand out benefits. That was one of the main goals of the U.S. Constitution, to create a government that had no power to hand out benefits... And until the Progressive Era, our government did not have that power (other than to appoint Postmasters and Collectors of tariffs at seaports).
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #245 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:47am
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I'm very concerned that the United States Dept. of Justice will perhaps have illegal immigrants reentering the United States, after they've been deported, to be very much fined, imprisoned for decades, or shot on sight.
  
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Re: 1st Lady Melania Speaks Out Against Zero Tolerance Immigration Policy
Reply #246 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 3:39pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:47am:
I'm very concerned that the United States Dept. of Justice will perhaps have illegal immigrants reentering the United States, after they've been deported, to be very much fined, imprisoned for decades, or shot on sight.

No worries, Alayne.

That won't ever happen..  the Supreme Court  would never allow that kind of treatment..

More likely there will be some kind of Visa program like the one I proposed in earlier posts. 

A plan where immigrants can buy a guest Visa  which is valid for one year.  It can be renewed indefinitely.

There will be no need to shoot any immigrants.  Smiley  Thank heavens!
  
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