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Re: Leftist Hysteria
Reply #10 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 10:16pm
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So, cutting spending is Republicans going crazy?

Funny how these children who get free lunch during the school year don't go hungry during the summer.  Somehow their families manage to feed them.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 23rd, 2018 at 1:32pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 10:16pm:
So, cutting spending is Republicans going crazy?

Funny how these children who get free lunch during the school year don't go hungry during the summer.  Somehow their families manage to feed them.


There is a need because the families aren't being responsible for their childrens' needs.

If you're blaming the children then don't. The blame needs to be placed on the parents before their children grow up and become irresponsible parents too.

Do you have any ideas on how to deal with the problem?
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 23rd, 2018 at 4:00pm
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The need is imaginary if the children are NOT going hungry during the summer months.  If parents can feed their children during summer month, they can feed them during school months.
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 4:18pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 23rd, 2018 at 4:00pm:
The need is imaginary if the children are NOT going hungry during the summer months.  If parents can feed their children during summer month, they can feed them during school months.

Of course, and the more free our economy is, the more opportunities will be created and therefore fewer and fewer children will have to grow up impoverished and starving like they are in Venezuela. Cry
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:23pm
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Jeff, in that book I'm reading by the author who wrote the article you posted a link to, he says something very profound that needs to be taught in school.  Basically, that we get more from people's self interest than from their benevolence.
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 7:11pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Jeff, in that book I'm reading by the author who wrote the article you posted a link to, he says something very profound that needs to be taught in school.  Basically, that we get more from people's self interest than from their benevolence.
That's an old idea Ruby. It was an insight of early liberals.

The baker doesn't bake bread for you, he bakes bread so he can earn a living for himself and his family.

A society of people acting within civilized norms to provide for themselves end up providing good things for everyone.

If you try to provide for yourself and your family by producing something nobody wants, you soon find out.
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 7:47pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Jeff, in that book I'm reading by the author who wrote the article you posted a link to, he says something very profound that needs to be taught in school.  Basically, that we get more from people's self interest than from their benevolence.


Correct Ruby! That's why we can't allow charity to fulfill the needs of the poor. We have, and always will have, government programs to take care of people in need.

Our job is to manage the need in order to keep it to a minimum and that is not done by punishing them.

It's done be teaching them to be good responsible citizens who want to care for themselves. The US fails miserably in doing that Ruby!

Do overflowing jails keep the cost down or do those overflowing jails soak the hell out of taxpayers like you and me?

I'm all for changing the system through libertarian methods but my boss's attitude holds me back.
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 8:16pm
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Correct Ruby! That's why we can't allow charity to fulfill the needs of the poor.
Why is that? Please be specific. Thanks.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 9:22pm
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There is a need because the families aren't being responsible for their childrens' needs.


Then why should they be allowed to have children? If the parents are starving their children, the children need to be taken away.

Welfare is a thing. The State makes sure these people get enough money to buy food. If they're spending it on crack, then they shouldn't be allowed to raise kids.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #19 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 10:41pm
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That's an old idea Ruby. It was an insight of early liberals.

The baker doesn't bake bread for you, he bakes bread so he can earn a living for himself and his family.

A society of people acting within civilized norms to provide for themselves end up providing good things for everyone.

If you try to provide for yourself and your family by producing something nobody wants, you soon find out.


I know it's an old idea, Jeff.  That book explains the history of libertarianism (classic liberalism).  But it's an old idea that needs to be taught to the kids.  To understand the economy, we need to understand people, and people are self interested.  To add to this, we need to understand that raising taxes on the rich will only get them to try and preserve their profits.  They do this by raising prices and hiring fewer workers.  People will always be self interested no matter how much they get preached to about being selfless.  You can't change human nature.
  
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