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Reply #40 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 4:44pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:23am:
Fairness happens only in the imagined ideal version of Statism, which statists claim to be striving for.  They claim that we are only failing to obtain the dreamed of fairness because their ideas of how a fair statist society should be ordered are not being fully implemented.


Nonsense. What you are talking about is the dream of a philosopher king, a liberal and enlightened dictator, a Great Leader...

What happens then is everybody's wishes are granted. Grin Grin Grin

Edit: It's a long time claim of communists that communism only fails because they have failed to make everyone into a good communist, and been unable to kill enough "capitalists" to make perfect communism feasible. (Edit: The scientific theories of Marxism say that "capitalism" to communists is like Kryptonite to Superman... So don't plan to live communally until the last "capitalist" is converted or dead. Historical Determinism makes it inevitable that communes will fail as long as economic freedom exists. Cheesy

Once a socialist system is imposed by force, only good communists will be left, and they will all work as hard as they can for the commune! Cheesy
  
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Reply #41 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 5:41pm
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Opp, yes it does matter what a gun or a dog or a tiger is good for.  There's a reason tigers are outlawed as pets, while dogs are not.  And there's a reason we're allowed to own guns.  The benefit of owning a tiger isn't worth the risk.  There is no benefit to owning a tiger like there is to owning a dog or gun.
  
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Reply #42 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 5:43pm
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I'm glad you don't.


And I still don't, it's not the story that SnarkySack mentioned.  Oh well.
  
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Reply #43 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:34pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
Opp, yes it does matter what a gun or a dog or a tiger is good for.  There's a reason tigers are outlawed as pets, while dogs are not.  And there's a reason we're allowed to own guns.  The benefit of owning a tiger isn't worth the risk.  There is no benefit to owning a tiger like there is to owning a dog or gun.


libertarians will uphold a person's right to own a pitbull right up until it's their child's face that is bitten off.

Then they will become socially responsible citizens as they get the bill for the plastic surgery.

The thing is Ruby, if enough children't faces are bitten off, you will eventually have enough common citizens to demand universal health care.
  
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Reply #44 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm
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The thing is Ruby, if enough children't faces are bitten off, you will eventually have enough common citizens to demand universal health care.
I suppose so, that seems so... logical Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #45 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:56pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
I suppose so, that seems so... logical Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You and me boss! Forever!
  
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Reply #46 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:02pm
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You and me boss! Forever!
If you really accept me as the boss of you, you will follow my command, and never post on the Libertarian's Forum again.

This is a test of your sincerity, and you have so far proven to have none. Cry
  
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Reply #47 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:33pm
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Jeff wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
If you really accept me as the boss of you, you will follow my command, and never post on the Libertarian's Forum again.

This is a test of your sincerity, and you have so far proven to have none. Cry


Like I say boss, we're one.

But there is a possibility of what you're talking about. If you leave the forum boss, I would change my name to Ruby's real name.
  
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Reply #48 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:18am
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
Opp, yes it does matter what a gun or a dog or a tiger is good for.


I propose that dogs be limited to people who use them for those purposes, then, and banned to those who only want one for companionship.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #49 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:23am
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 12:18am:
I propose that dogs be limited to people who use them for those purposes, then, and banned to those who only want one for companionship.
Shame on you. You would deny a basic right... Isn't that your (absurdly wrong) complaint about libertarians, that they want to deny rights to others?
  
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