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Reply #50 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:48pm
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Right! Do you have anything good to say about libertarians?


They have the best philosophy, objectively.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #51 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:56pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
They have the best philosophy, objectively.


You're really contradicting yourself now Oppo. Do big brains do that as part of their thinking process?

Sort of like slamming your head into a concrete wall to punish it for bad thoughts?
  
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Reply #52 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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You're really contradicting yourself now Oppo. Do big brains do that as part of their thinking process?

Sort of like slamming your head into a concrete wall to punish it for bad thoughts?


This is that thing Ahhell was talking about where you don't get nuances.

It's possible for a thing to be good in one way, and bad in another. Each thing has many traits which can and should be evaluated separately.
  

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Re: WH Press Sect'y Sarah Sanders Got Booted From Restaurant
Reply #53 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:02pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Let's be honest, libertarians are just rights Nazis.

"No rights for you!"


I guess you actually believe I'm Vulcan. (We're still the same species, bro, since I can make halfbreeds with your females.)

But this is actually what's incredibly disturbing to anyone but a libertarian about your viewpoint.

Can you imagine the scene at the end of the First Contact movie with a libertarian there? Everyone else is filled with wonder and awe to meet actual aliens and Jeff blows their heads off with a shotgun because only humans have rights.

Libertarians are sick in the head. If my sentience and ability to reason isn't enough to grant me rights, I don't want them.
Jeffrey Dahmer was sentient and possessed of the ability to reason, but somehow, he failed to become human, or perhaps he once was human and fell to the level of an animal, IDK.

Actual aliens might or might not be human, but the determination won't be made (I hope) based on their appearance, but on how they treat other humans. Hopefully they will be human (no matter what they look like) and will recognize that most of us are human too, meaning they will respect our rights, and we will respect theirs.
  
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Re: WH Press Sect'y Sarah Sanders Got Booted From Restaurant
Reply #54 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:03pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
They have the best philosophy, objectively.
And the best policy proposals for putting the philosophy into practice.
  
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Reply #55 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:45pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:02pm:
Jeffrey Dahmer was sentient and possessed of the ability to reason, but somehow, he failed to become human, or perhaps he once was human and fell to the level of an animal, IDK.

Actual aliens might or might not be human, but the determination won't be made (I hope) based on their appearance, but on how they treat other humans. Hopefully they will be human (no matter what they look like) and will recognize that most of us are human too, meaning they will respect our rights, and we will respect theirs.


You are clearly using a nonstandard definition of human that entails respecting the rights of others.

You now have to backpedal after declaring the absolute because you see for yourself how absurd the picture is: Everyone else reaching out the hand of friendship as Jeff blows away the Vulcans because only humans have rights, and the right or wrong of that action hinging on whether or not a viable baby comes out when I boink your females.

If you were half as smart as you wish you were, you'd see the absurdity of that picture still in your new interpretation. How they treat other humans? It's still anyone's guess what a human is, then, because your crap is as circular as ever. Maybe the Bolokians have defined female as sub-human but they treat what they see as other humans very well.

I have never said I would do anything but respect the rights of others.

But if you recall, you said it wasn't good enough. You said the reason I respected the rights of others mattered, and you chose to attribute a faulty reason to me so you could declare I didn't have rights.

Remember this? This was just after I said I would always respect the rights of others.

Jeff wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 7:49am:
You have no more rights than an animal, because your understanding of rights is at the level of a predatory animal. You are a trained tiger, not killing and eating it's trainer because it has learned it will be punished and/or rewarded for acting as if it actually respected the rights of it's trainer, which it doesn't. Like you, a trained tiger can't understand and internalize that others have rights, so it has only animal rights itself.


Guess what, champ? You still get to blow away the Vulcans because the reason they respect rights is slightly different than yours - illogical waste of energy on objectively worthless conflicts being a large part of it.
  

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Reply #56 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 4:03pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:45pm:
You are clearly using a nonstandard definition of human that entails respecting the rights of others.

You now have to backpedal after declaring the absolute because you see for yourself how absurd the picture is: Everyone else reaching out the hand of friendship as Jeff blows away the Vulcans because only humans have rights, and the right or wrong of that action hinging on whether or not a viable baby comes out when I boink your females.

If you were half as smart as you wish you were, you'd see the absurdity of that picture still in your new interpretation. How they treat other humans? It's still anyone's guess what a human is, then, because your crap is as circular as ever. Maybe the Bolokians have defined female as sub-human but they treat what they see as other humans very well.

I have never said I would do anything but respect the rights of others.

But if you recall, you said it wasn't good enough. You said the reason I respected the rights of others mattered, and you chose to attribute a faulty reason to me so you could declare I didn't have rights.

Remember this? This was just after I said I would always respect the rights of others.


Guess what, champ? You still get to blow away the Vulcans because the reason they respect rights is slightly different than yours - illogical waste of energy on objectively worthless conflicts being a large part of it.


Oppo, if you were using your big brain, you would have told my boss that only humans do what Dahmer did. Animals never do such things.

Bearing in mind that my boss used the word 'animals' incorrectly in suggesting that humans aren't animals.

So it's human animals that stoop to Dahmer's level.

Even the jackal or the hyena slaughter with a righteous purpose.

Remember this for the next time my boss tries that sort of nonsensical tactic!
  
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Re: WH Press Sect'y Sarah Sanders Got Booted From Restaurant
Reply #57 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 4:47pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:45pm:
You are clearly using a nonstandard definition of human that entails respecting the rights of others.

That's the standard definition of human, someone who respects the rights of others.
  
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Re: WH Press Sect'y Sarah Sanders Got Booted From Restaurant
Reply #58 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:11pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 4:47pm:
That's the standard definition of human, someone who respects the rights of others.


I have told you, many times, that I respect the rights of others. That's not good enough for you.

Jeff wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 7:49am:
You have no more rights than an animal, because your understanding of rights is at the level of a predatory animal. You are a trained tiger, not killing and eating it's trainer because it has learned it will be punished and/or rewarded for acting as if it actually respected the rights of it's trainer, which it doesn't. Like you, a trained tiger can't understand and internalize that others have rights, so it has only animal rights itself.
  

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Reply #59 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:53pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
This is that thing Ahhell was talking about where you don't get nuances.

It's possible for a thing to be good in one way, and bad in another. Each thing has many traits which can and should be evaluated separately.


I've always agreed with that. If you're talking about some specific charge against me then spell it out.

You don't even try to measure up to my standards. You can't even accept the true meaning of the words, 'socially responsible'. You pretend they mean 'socialism'.

That's wh I give you a 120 IQ tops.
  
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