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Voter ID laws
Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:43am
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Good, bad, indifferent? 

What should libertarians think about them?
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:56am
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I'm for them.  Nobody's liberties are being forfeited by being required to show proper identification. 

As long as the voter ID protocols are equal/standardized among all the states.
  
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Bad, obviously. If there is to be a government, living under a government's rules provides the right to a voice in how one is governed.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:17pm
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The Opposition wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Bad, obviously. If there is to be a government, living under a government's rules provides the right to a voice in how one is governed.

How could a Voter ID take away a citizen's right to vote?
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:22pm
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Voting itself is not libertarian.  It allows 51% of the people to outrule 49% of the people.

It would be better to have a God King who makes all decisions, and everyone lives free under the rule of the God King.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:34pm
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ahhell wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:43am:
Good, bad, indifferent? 

What should libertarians think about them?


From a real libertarian's POV, all voters should be registered to vote and be identifiable at the polls. That is, providing that complete registration can be accomplished before an election.

I'm saying that the libertarian position would be that nobody is excluded from voting because of some inability to register.

That is, if you're asking from the perspective of fairness that would uphold libertarian principles. If you are asking from a perspective of libertarians not preferring to be identified or some other batsht crazy notion, then I'm not going there with you.

Sadly, the chief who claims to be the 'libertarian' on this forum, takes the extremist position because he knows voter registration is being used by the political right in some circumstances to exclude some voters.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 7:56pm
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SicklersDink wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Sadly, the chief who claims to be the 'libertarian' on this forum, takes the extremist position because he knows voter registration is being used by the political right in some circumstances to exclude some voters.

Liar. I never claimed to be a libertarian.  The only claim I've made on this forum is that I am a (paid) member of the Libertarian Party.

You OTOH, have claimed on multiple occasions to be the "only real" libertarian, which is absurd.

You're a moonbat troll who thinks the government has a right to lay claim on a citizens earnings. You couldn't possibly be more anti-libertarian.

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Reply #7 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 8:36pm
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ahhell wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:43am:
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The Constitution as amended seems to require proof of age... Can that be done without some sort of valid ID?

Would it not be discrimination to require valid ID to prove age only from some people, based on their apparent lack of age?
  
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Re: Voter ID laws
Reply #8 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 10:32pm
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If it keeps people from voting more than once, I'm all for them.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 10:35pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 10:32pm:
If it keeps people from voting more than once, I'm all for them. 

Voter ID also prevents dead people from voting.  Dead people voting is never a good idea.
  
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