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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #30 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 7:00pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Businesses only give money to politicians when they get something in return, even if it's only protection.

For businesses buying more than protection, the special crony businesses who are sold favors, they get rich as you say, but they make sure their political masters get rich too.

The entire problem arises when you give government the power to grant favors to businesses.


You've already 'gone off' boss so maybe tomorrow. Can you remind me?
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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #31 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:25am
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Jeff wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Businesses only give money to politicians when they get something in return, even if it's only protection.

For businesses buying more than protection, the special crony businesses who are sold favors, they get rich as you say, but they make sure their political masters get rich too.

The entire problem arises when you give government the power to grant favors to businesses.
Here's the reminder you asked for Dong.
  
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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #32 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 6:30pm
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Trump was not greeted warmly in the UK.  In fact, Anti-Trump protesters were out in force carrying signs that said  TRUCK FUMP   and  GO HOME TRUMP

they chanted in unison

"Say it Loud..

Say it Clear..

Donald Trump is not Welcome Here!!"


One placard read:   "Stupid, Callous, Fragile, Racist, Narcissistic POTUS"    Shocked

Globalist Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn said:

"Our message to our visitor is: We are united in our hope for a world of justice, not division.  We are united in our hope to end racism and misogyny, we are united in hope for all our diversity."

Trump is very Anti-globalist and this doesn't set well with the Brits.
  
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Reply #33 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 6:53pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Trump was not greeted warmly in the UK.  In fact, Anti-Trump protesters were out in force carrying signs that said  TRUCK FUMP   and  GO HOME TRUMP

they chanted in unison

"Say it Loud..

Say it Clear..

Donald Trump is not Welcome Here!!"


One placard read:   "Stupid, Callous, Fragile, Racist, Narcissistic POTUS"    Shocked

Globalist Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn said:

"Our message to our visitor is: We are united in our hope for a world of justice, not division.  We are united in our hope to end racism and misogyny, we are united in hope for all our diversity."

Trump is very Anti-globalist and this doesn't set well with the Brits. 


Some Britons are old enough to remember the rise of Nazism and are seeing a similarity.

It's time for Americans to come together and defned their furor/dictator. Libertarianism will just have to be put on the back burner for another 100 years.

Americans must unite under the common flag. There can't be two parties any longer.

Heil Trump!
  
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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #34 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 7:44pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Globalist Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn said:

"Our message to our visitor is: We are united in our hope for a world of justice, not division.  We are united in our hope to end racism and misogyny, we are united in hope for all our diversity."

Sure, "Workers of the World Unite" and all that.

Dumbshits have been marching in the streets and protesting and being "activists" for that communist dogma for 100 years.

Just put the government controlled unions in charge?

But they never do that. They outlaw unions.
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 1:01pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 7:44pm:
Sure, "Workers of the World Unite" and all that.

Dumbshits have been marching in the streets and protesting and being "activists" for that communist dogma for 100 years.

Just put the government controlled unions in charge?

But they never do that. They outlaw unions.


libertarians can't justifiably say that all unions must be banned, even though most of them are convinced they should be.

The US has several strategies to accomplish that goal while pretending to allow workers' to have rights too.

The most effective one to stop workers' unions is to make laws that are claimed to be 'right to work' laws.

And we know that libertarians support that kind of law and stand with it.

It's a compromise of a libertarians principles that is so blatantly false that it negates any real legitimacy in the entire political view.

Again, American heads are full of the brainwashing of the wealthy. This keeps the system safe for the wealthy and their money.

Libertarians can't lay claim to their fair share because it's other people's money!  Embarrassed
  
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Reply #36 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:11pm
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libertarians can't justifiably say that all unions must be banned...
Not even unions of government employees should be banned. Libertarians believe in rights of free association.

It's the idea that the government must 'bargain' with government employee's unions that must be banned.

The governments are not bargaining with their own money.
  
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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #37 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:21pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
Not even unions of government employees should be banned. Libertarians believe in rights of free association.

It's the idea that the government must 'bargain' with government employee's unions that must be banned.

The governments are not bargaining with their own money.

so u want to over trun citzens unighted cuz thats the olny way thats happening and i dont see that happen ing if trump or pence aponts the next sapreem court justice i hope congress blocks him
  
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Reply #38 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:29pm
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thermf5 wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
so u want to over trun citzens unighted cuz thats the olny way thats happening and i dont see that happen ing if trump or pence aponts the next sapreem court justice i hope congress blocks him
All I want in this instance is for governments to stop "bargaining" with government employee's unions.

It is not bargaining when the government isn't using it's own money.

It's like giving a ten year old an unlimited credit card and letting him use it to "bargain" for a computer.
  
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Re: Isolationism and anti-Globalism - There's A Difference
Reply #39 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:35pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
All I want in this instance is for governments to stop "bargaining" with government employee's unions.

It is not bargaining when the government isn't using it's own money.

It's like giving a ten year old an unlimited credit card and letting him use it to "bargain" for a computer.

do  the dues come out of the government workers pay checks or are thay payed for with direct tax dollors in the frist cace tthen its not government money but the workers and if its the 2ed then ur right
  
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