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Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:39pm
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"What do democratic socialists believe? Democratic Socialists explicitly support communism.  Co-chair of Portland Oregon's chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America, Olivia Katbi Smith tweeted:

"As a DSA chapter co-chair, I just wanna set the record straight for a minute - Communism is good."

Tucker then goes on to a mind-numbing interview with Democratic Socialist spokesman, Cornel West:

  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:11pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:39pm:
"What do democratic socialists believe? Democratic Socialists explicitly support communism.  Co-chair of Portland Oregon's chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America, Olivia Katbi Smith tweeted:

"As a DSA chapter co-chair, I just wanna set the record straight for a minute - Communism is good."

Tucker then goes on to a mind-numbing interview with Democratic Socialist spokesman, Cornel West:



West's opening statement was right on and Tucker agreed with it, with some buts.

I would be delighted to talk about it with you from a POV of 'socially' responsible capitalism.

It seems that you actually do want to start a conversation on it now. It's always been my goal on this forum to do just that.

If that's so, and it's not just another demonstration of dogma and bad feelings then I'll start:

I will argue on the basis of what Canada is currently supporting in government. And I'll leave it up to you whether or not we include my trump card that is universal health care.

You can include the American trump card that is drawing the parallel to communism. I'm not afraid of having to deal with that accusation. In fact, I see it as an essential stumbling block to get over.

Tucker used it early on and that told me that he had little interest in a reasoned discussion. So I stopped the video at that  point.

If you think I missed something important then I could be convinced to watch the whole thing maybe?

I'm expecting some to come to your rescue even before you  begin. That's because of the paranoia that exists in your country against even the words, 'social responsible'! That doesn't bode well for making any progress but, you may be inviting the conversation?
  

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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #2 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:28pm
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So I watched and listened to the whole thing.

Did Tucker make a point that you want to pursue? West talked over him and ended up frustrating him. That was obvious?

I think the best point Tucker made that could have come across for the audience was on open borders. But strange because that would have been mainly a point where you would be in agreement with West?

What is your point in posting this Chief? It seems to me to be the worst example you could have found if your aim was to put down 'socialism'.

In truth, I think Tucker is too smart for Fox News by half. It's almost as if he tried to lose the debate?

This is exactly the sort of dialogue the American people need to be exposed to!

Tucker ended up lookiing completely overwhelmed at the end. He even forced a great big laugh. It's almost like Tucker had it planned beforehand to be made a fool of?

Let's get started Chief. I'm imposing no limitations whatsoever on how you want to frame this now.  Smiley
  

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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:45pm
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SicklersDink wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
What is your point in posting this Chief? It seems to me to be the worst example you could have found if your aim was to put down 'socialism'.

Carlson does an excellent job of pulling the curtain back and exposing what "Democratic Socialism" for what it truly is - communism masquerading as something a bit less cringeworthy.

Democratic socialism wants government to seize control of corporations and abolish all profit(s).

This is the very essence of communism.   

Kudos to DSA co-chair Olivia Katbi Smith for plainly stating that.

It's interesting to note that millennials overwhelmingly favor democratic socialism because they are the ones who will benefit from re-distribution of wealth.  They really like the idea of "free" college and "free" health care.

But when they complete their "free" schooling and get their degrees, and start pulling in six-figure salaries, the government will take a sizable chunk of their earnings.  At this point the millennials become much less enthusiastic about democratic socialism.

Let's be honest.  They will come to hate it, and will probably turn libertarian.
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Let's be honest.  They will come to hate it, and will probably turn libertarian.


Especially when they're having to eat zoo animals.
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #5 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:04pm
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RubyHypatia wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
Especially when they're having to eat zoo animals.

Or worse - their pets!
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #6 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:14pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Or worse - their pets!
Even the rats have been eaten! Fighting for the right to pick the dump is all that is left!

That a right that Democratic Socialism hasn't actually recognized... They should make some rules about it?
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:26pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
Even the rats have been eaten! Fighting for the right to pick the dump is all that is left!

That a right that Democratic Socialism hasn't actually recognized... They should make some rules about it?

Democratic Socialism is  just communism with a pretty bow on it.       It's just lipstick on a pig.
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:26pm:
Democratic Socialism is  just communism with a pretty bow on it.       It's just lipstick on a pig.
Yes, but they are convinced that if they put the right shade of lipstick on the pig this time everybody will love it!

Which reminds me, I read that Hillary is going to run again....
  
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Re: Tucker Carlson Explains Democratic Socialism
Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:59pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
... I read that Hillary is going to run again....

This is wonderful news!   This will guarantee a second term for Trump.  I'll bet Kaz is already celebrating!    Grin
  
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