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Reply #20 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:49pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
There's a fatal flaw in the article...



The premise is flawed because it assumes that tax breaks are a bad thing. 

Tax Breaks are always a good thing...

If you get one sure, it's great, but the people paying for it get screwed.

Thanks for giving me another chance to talk about the two inclusive categories of taxation and the legal rules that apply to them in the U.S.

Indirect taxes and Direct taxes, and the rules of Uniformity and Apportionment.

But you already know about them, so I won't bother.
  
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Reply #21 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:49pm:
If you get one sure, it's great, but the people paying for it get screwed.

Thanks for giving me another chance to talk about the two inclusive categories of taxation and the legal rules that apply to them in the U.S.

Indirect taxes and Direct taxes, and the rules of Uniformity and Apportionment.

But you already know about them, so I won't bother.

Nobody is questioning the legality of taxes.  They're legal.  I get it. 

Government should always be looking for ways to offer tax breaks.   Tax breaks should be uniform, and should apply to ALL Americans, equally, and uniformly.

Of course, that's not a law, but it should be!   Smiley
  
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Reply #22 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:13pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Government should always be looking for ways to offer tax breaks.   Tax breaks should be uniform, and should apply to ALL Americans, equally, and uniformly.

Of course, that's not a law, but it should be!   Smiley
You are wrong at every point Chief, or at least misleading.

The Rule of Uniformity is a Constitutional law. It's an essential part of the Constitution and our system of government.

From what you know, what current tax laws are uniform?
  
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Reply #23 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:27pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
You are wrong at every point Chief, or at least misleading.

The Rule of Uniformity is a Constitutional law. It's an essential part of the Constitution and our system of government.

From what you know, what current tax laws are uniform?

When I said Tax Breaks should be uniform, I meant ideally - not legally.

SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
 Tax breaks should be uniform, and should apply to ALL Americans, equally, and uniformly.

Of course, that's not a law, but it should be!   Smiley
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:52pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:27pm:
When I said Tax Breaks should be uniform, I meant ideally - not legally.


Indirect taxes are legally required to be Uniform.

It's right there in the Constitution.
  
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Reply #25 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Indirect taxes are legally required to be Uniform.

It's right there in the Constitution.

What does the Constitution say about Tax Breaks?     Smiley
  
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Reply #26 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:35pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What does the Constitution say about Tax Breaks?     Smiley
Nothing. Uniform or apportioned are the only legal options.
  
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Reply #27 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:59pm
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
What does the Constitution say about Tax Breaks?     Smiley


If your plan just allowed the very wealthy to stop paying income taxes. would that make you half happy? I think that's already happened!

It wouldn't matter would it if the poor people and working people have to pay more to make up for it would it?
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 12:45am
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SicklersDink wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
If your plan just allowed the very wealthy to stop paying income taxes. would that make you half happy? I think that's already happened!

It wouldn't matter would it if the poor people and working people have to pay more to make up for it would it?

No.  I'm saying any Tax Breaks should be uniform .

It's wrong if one group of people get a Tax Break and other groups don't.

That's why I objected to Trump's tax breaks for the rich.  The middle and lower-income people got screwed.

And, of course, any Tax Breaks must be accompanied with spending CUTS, otherwise deficit spending happens, and we go deeper into debt.

AFAIK, there weren't any spending cuts that went with Trump's Tax Breaks.
  
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Reply #29 - Jul 13th, 2018 at 8:33am
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SkyChief wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 12:45am:
No.  I'm saying any Tax Breaks should be uniform .

It's wrong if one group of people get a Tax Break and other groups don't.

Agreed, and making sure Indirect taxes are uniform means exactly that.
  
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