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SicklersDink
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Reply #10 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
I think you put all the reeason's Bernie was un-electable in a nutshell Dong.

Bernie and Putin have a common goal of destroying America, why wouldn't they collude?

A President Bernie could have been a very useful idiot for Putin.


If what Trump is doing with Putin/Russia was for the right reasons, he would be doing a lot of good.

If Bernie did the same he would possibly doing it for the right reason. But he could have done it for some other reason.

I wonder if the Dem party would have supported Bernie in befriending Russia?
  
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Re: Trump Goes on the Defense.
Reply #11 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 7:48pm
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If what Trump is doing with Putin/Russia was for the right reasons, he would be doing a lot of good.
What's Trump doing? What Rand Paul said?

You're agreeing with both Trump's actions and Paul's defense of them?

I think your showing signs of intellectual growth Dong! Good work.

Edit: Be warned, somebody is bound to call you a fascist or a Nazi for taking that position. Cry
  
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Reply #12 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 8:07pm
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Pat Buchanan-  "If this be treason, make the most of it."
https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2018/07/16/trump-calls-off-cold-war-ii/
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Pat Buchanan-  "If this be treason, make the most of it."
https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2018/07/16/trump-calls-off-cold-war-ii/


Wow Tom, quite the article by Buchanan. He's completely sold the US farm on who to blame, the US or Russia, and he's right.

The trouble still is Tom, Trump's actions with Putin are only his intent of keeping the collusion with Russia a secret in order to save his ass.

Today's incident with Trump claiming that he mispoke and said 'would' and meant 'wouldn't, unfortunately exposed Trump for what he is and what he's always been.

I've never taken the Dems position that peaceful relations are a bad thing. That's just the Dems' way of playing it to bring down  Trump.  That's America and it's been firmly planted in American heads to see Russia as the evil enemy.

It's always been the real question of whether Trump colluded with Russia to win the election. I'm convinced he did.

Pat Buchanan is again making a big mistake in thinking that *any American president is interested in world peace. Pat left the thread hanging with Trump destroying the Iran deal.

I'm saying that Russia is still the Soviet Union and the enemy of the US in American eyes. That includes Trump's eyes because the only reason he's dealing with Putin is because Putin has the goods on him.

And time will tell the whole story.

*some of Obama's peace initiatives with Syria excepted.
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm
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Jeff wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
What's Trump doing? What Rand Paul said?

You're agreeing with both Trump's actions and Paul's defense of them?

I think your showing signs of intellectual growth Dong! Good work.

Edit: Be warned, somebody is bound to call you a fascist or a Nazi for taking that position. Cry

Rand Paul is a political opportunist and is stupid enough to go with Trump on this. He's also stupid enough to be a libertarian when it benefits him. He's not one when he has to put his reputation up to backing his actions.

There's no Russia love in Trump. It's all about Trump trying to save his ass.
  
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Reply #15 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 9:51pm
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Boss Sickler, you just have to read Pat Buchanan's piece that Tom posted from antiwar.com.

It's such a solid and complete condemnation of America that it's probably going to make you puke.

Myself boss, I opened a bottle of champagne and a stars and stripes condom! Thinking you may see the chief later tonight!  Shocked
  
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Re: Trump Goes on the Defense.
Reply #16 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 8:35am
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Tom Palven wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Pat Buchanan-  "If this be treason, make the most of it."
https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2018/07/16/trump-calls-off-cold-war-ii/
Good article Tom. Nothing libertarians who've been paying attention didn't know about and criticize, but you usually don't see it put together so clearly.

Will Trump become a libertarian hero? No.
  
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Re: Trump Goes on the Defense.
Reply #17 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 9:11am
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Bernie would have pushed tax cuts for the lower quintile and tax increases for the higher quintiles.

That's one thing Trump's cuts did Dong, and now "blue" states are suing, saying it's unfair to the rich people that live in their states-

http://www.wsaz.com/content/news/4-blue-states-sue-Washington-over-GOP-tax-overh...

You'll notice that this only affects people who pay more than $10,000 in state and local taxes, meaning mostly what working people call "the rich"... It will force the rich to pay more federal taxes.


  
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Reply #18 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 11:26am
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Jeff wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
I think you put all the reeason's Bernie was un-electable in a nutshell Dong.

Bernie and Putin have a common goal of destroying America, why wouldn't they collude?

A President Bernie could have been a very useful idiot for Putin.


I put all the reasons why there's a good possibility of someone a lot like Bernie being elected next time. It's a slow growing experience for Americans but eventually they will want to be happy too.
  
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