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Reply #120 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:23am
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 10:41pm:
 

But they still believe that government can legally steal wealth from us. (as do you).

You are are both very dangerous to a free society.

You, like Red, are imagining that a government to protect our lives and liberty and property can exist without taxation, or that a free society can exist without government.

There is simply no evidence that either thing can happen.

From the perspective of the history of the world, your idea that taxation is theft is dangerous to a free society.
  
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Reply #121 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:29am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:23am:
From the perspective of the history of the world, your idea that taxation is theft is dangerous to a free society.

The reason for the American  revolution was to escape taxes.  They understood that taxes are theft.   They said enough is enough.

This government is completely out of control. The founders would be shocked to see the excessive taxation.

They would probably suggest another revolution. 
  
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Reply #122 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 5:08pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:29am:
The reason for the American  revolution was to escape taxes.
They claimed their rights as Englishmen to not be taxed unless their representative had a voice in the lawmaking. Their rights were refused. They continued to be taxed without gaining representation in Parliament.

That was the issue. It was not to escape taxation.
  
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Reply #123 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 7:42am
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Democratic Socialists expose their plan to have federal bureaucrats take over the entire economy as was done in WWII, to save us from global warming-

https://www.dailywire.com/news/37382/ocasio-cortez-defeating-nazis-blueprint-def...

I guess Ms. Ocasio-Cortez doesn't know that, since the warming predicted by the climate models hasn't occurred, it's now best to just refer to"climate change".

From the article-

"Ocasio-Cortez did not address the fact that the U.S., a year after pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord, is leading the world in reducing CO2 emissions while many of the other nations are breaking their promises to reduce emissions."

What does that mean? Most likely that China and India have caused whatever bad effects, if any, have been caused by carbon dioxide emissions.
  
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Reply #124 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 6:49pm
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I'll keep watch for more about this.

It seems that having someone who is being presented as a viable candidate for President who is talking about martial law to stop vegetation from decomposing and releasing any carbon dioxide from the U.S. at all should be watched closely. Shocked

I think if she has her way, certain groups of people will be prohibited from breathing.

Maybe I'm the only one who finds this worrisome...
  
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Reply #125 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 3:26pm
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Tom Palven wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 8:49am:
"Democratic Socialism Surging" is the title in big block letters of an article in the first section of today's Times Union, Jacksonville, FL.

It's been 50 years since the Libertarian Party thought it might provide an answer to socialism, and this is where we are now.

Anyone have any more bright ideas?


Take comfort, these redistribution schemes are just a symptom of a rift in the Western system that was present from the dawn of the modern age.

Your post is yet another data point that says inflationary policies are finally coming, after trying out every other trick in the elites' bag.  IMO this is often the least bad of the choices available after a financial bust.  Buy gold, silver and Bitcoin.
  
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Reply #126 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:10pm
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BobK71 wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 3:26pm:
Take comfort, these redistribution schemes are just a symptom of a rift in the Western system that was present from the dawn of the modern age.

Your post is yet another data point that says inflationary policies are finally coming, after trying out every other trick in the elites' bag.  IMO this is often the least bad of the choices available after a financial bust.  Buy gold, silver and Bitcoin.
You really are whacky Bob.

The best reply to Tom Palven's post is, 150 years after Democratic Socialism was invented, this is where it is now.

People are still pursuing the bright ideas of the classical liberals, and improving them (which Marxists haven't been able to do for Democratic Socialism Cry.)
  
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Reply #127 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 10:57pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 6:49pm:
I think if she has her way, certain groups of people will be prohibited from breathing.

Maybe I'm the only one who finds this worrisome...

You're not the only one, Jeff.

But thankfully, Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist moonbat.  Only a few millenials take that socialist crap seriously.

She will fade into obscurity. Like  Bernie...  And Pocahontas.

Rest in peace.   Smiley

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Reply #128 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:47am
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 10:57pm:
You're not the only one, Jeff.

But thankfully, Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist moonbat.  Only a few millenials take that socialist crap seriously.

She will fade into obscurity. Like  Bernie...  And Pocahontas.

Rest in peace.   Smiley

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We can only hope.

The premise that Democratic Socialism is surging is being propagated by the Democratic Socialists and their useful idiot helpers.

It's the same sort of thing the Democratic Socialists did when they were fighting to take control of Russia, they declared themselves to be the Major Party (Bolsheviks) and told everyone they were certain to win.

They weren't the major party by a longshot, but telling people they were helped them win.
  
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Reply #129 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 11:28am
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Jeff wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:10pm:
You really are whacky Bob.

The best reply to Tom Palven's post is, 150 years after Democratic Socialism was invented, this is where it is now.

People are still pursuing the bright ideas of the classical liberals, and improving them (which Marxists haven't been able to do for Democratic Socialism Cry.)

I agree, to praise social democracy in this forum, you have to be a little strange!

It's not social democratic ideas that I like, it's the inflationary effects.  Since the debts are unpayable, we might as well be honest and admit it and inflate them away.  It's not a good condition, but there are no good choices at this point.  It's also the least painful choice.  (I think even I would be shocked by the games being played by the elites to pretend the debts are still good, if the truth be fully publicized.)

It's a shame that we'll have to go through the song and dance of quasi-socialist rhetoric to get there, but do we really have a choice?  And do people really know the truth, whatever narrative/ideology is dominant or being promoted?

As a famous movie line says, you can't handle the truth.  I would add, settle for a decent result.
  
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