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Reply #110 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:11pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:13pm:
You like inflation. I hate it. It's a hidden tax that has steadily eroded the value of my savings and investments.

You must be confusing me with someone else.  I have already stated that inflation is a Tax, and it should be eliminated:

SkyChief wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Americans are already over-taxed.     Inflation is simply another unnecessary tax.

Ron Paul said "End The Fed".  I agree. We'd be so much better off without it.


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Reply #111 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:04am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
There's no fuss about authenticity when you buy or sell silver bullion from dealers either.
The amount dealers charge varies from dealer to dealer and depends on competition. The same for what dealers will pay, and they all seem to base it on the market spot price of silver, which various continuously.

Silver is always available and you can always sell what you have. Sometimes people sell things at a loss for various reasons.

If you want to buy paper rights to silver, my experience is you will be charged storage fees for the silver you own but don't have physical possession of.


Could it be that there's no fuss about authenticity because silver is cheap now?

I'm never going to buy paper gold or silver in any significant amount.  Imagine the furor if it becomes public that a Bitcoin exchange physically owns fewer coins than what users have in their accounts.  But this happens in gold- and silver-land openly and has been for decades.  The scenario where prices really go crazy high very fast is the scenario where you won't collect (as counterparties default.)
  
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Reply #112 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:30pm
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BobK71 wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:04am:
I'm never going to buy paper gold or silver in any significant amount. 

That's a good idea, BobK

We goldbugs and silverbugs have a saying:

"If you don't hold it, you don't own it."
  
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Reply #113 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:44pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:01pm:
This is interesting, Bob. 

I wonder if the G/S ratio is still being artificially manipulated.

Silver has many practical industrial and pharmaceutical uses, so it would make sense to suppress the market price of silver.


I think all asset prices are manipulated (and least indirectly in the case of gold and silver IMO.)

If you look at a chart of G:S ratios over the last 100 years, it has been see-sawing inside a range, and we're clearly closer to the top than the bottom of that range now.  Also, for at least 90 of the past 100 years the establishment narrative was that gold was the only thing even close to non-state money, and that may be changing with the onset of cryptos.

I  think silver is a good bet now, but I haven't thought enough about 'monetary policy' when it comes to value ratios among non-state monies.
  
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Reply #114 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 2:31pm
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BobK71 wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:04am:
Could it be that there's no fuss about authenticity because silver is cheap now?

There's no fuss because it's easy to buy and sell serialized bars of silver or silver coins from a variety of different private mints and/or government mints. The same applies for gold.

It's even easy to sell gold nuggets!
  
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Reply #115 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 8:11am
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Reply #117 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:35pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 8:11am:


I don't believe the Deep State likes socialism.  It was fighting socialists from 1917 to 1991.  (If, God forbid, the Soviets had won the Cold War, there would be no place in the new order for the Western state-bank elites.)  Even though the Deep State doesn't really care about free markets, it did enough to be able to carry the banner for capitalism over the decades.

The rise of the Soviet Union was a bad side effect of the machinations of the Deep State, from its point of view.  (Specifically, starting the First World War and forcing Russia to help fight it, in order to make sure Germany didn't dominate Europe and destroy the money bubble led directly to the Bolshevik takeover.)

But, as is usually the case, since the Deep State allied itself with the forces of freedom and capitalism, many people like you and me had no choice but to help it win.  This is akin to today's stirring up of conflicts and creation of terrorists -- most people end up helping the Deep State in the ensuing fight against terrorism, but rarely stop and think how it started the whole saga in the first place.

The only way to fight the Deep State is by exposing its core deception that it is on the side of freedom, democracy, and free markets.
  
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Reply #118 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:39pm
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BobK71 wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:35pm:
I don't believe the Deep State likes socialism.  It was fighting socialists from 1917 to 1991.
I noticed. So what?

There was a pretense that when the Soviet Union imploded, communists and Communism had somehow magically disappeared from the earth...

Do you buy into that?
  
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Reply #119 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:43pm
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BobK71 wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:35pm:
Even though the Deep State doesn't really care about free markets, it did enough to be able to carry the banner for capitalism over the decades.

Crony capitalism? We should be thankful for that?

I'm still confused...

Did the deep state put The Donald in power, or is it the deep state that's trying to get him impeached and shot?

I still predict the BATFE will win out over the feebs.

Edit: Are people booking odds for that sort of question?
  
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