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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #120 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 6:10pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Zimbabwe and Venezuela both have very bad forms of government, which is the root of all their problems.

The great thing about hyper-inflation is that nearly every citizen becomes a multi- Billionaire!!

  Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #121 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 7:41am
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Things don't really look so good-

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/venezuela-verge-massive-humanitaria...

And it's no surprise to libertarians that socialism is the problem.
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #122 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 11:42am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 7:41am:
Things don't really look so good-

And it's no surprise to libertarians that socialism is the problem.

Maduro blames US sanctions for all the misery and poverty in Venezuela.

It's true that US sanctions have probably exacerbated problems in that country, but the root of their problems is socialism.

The HUGE problem with socialism is that doesn't give any incentive to excel at anything.  People lose the desire to acquire wealth, and production goes down.   As production decreases,  the government loses the ability to provide the people basic needs.  People starve, or they resort to crime (steal food), or they leave.

Protein in the "Maduro diet" consists mainly of rats, mice, large bugs and pets.

In the final stages of socialism, the government hyper-inflates the currency to make people feel richer.

"Look, I'm a billionaire!" 

Sad.

“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”  - Margaret Thatcher
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #123 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:32pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 11:42am:
Maduro blames US sanctions for all the misery and poverty in Venezuela.

It's true that US sanctions have probably exacerbated problems in that country, but the root of their problems is socialism.

The sanctions have been against the evil socialist government of Venezuela, not the Venezuelan people.
  
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Reply #124 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:45pm
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Even potable WATER is becoming scarce in Venezuela.  Sometimes it's available - sometimes it's not.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-27/life-without-water-sweaty-sme...
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #125 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 8:20am
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Bad things resulting from "socialist" ideology are getting set to happen in South Africa too.

It's probably "racist" to criticize what is going to happen because of "socialism" in S. Africa... I'll chance it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/land-confiscations-loom-south-africa-r...
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #126 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44am
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Venezuelan managers and employees of businesses have been arrested in the past few weeks, accused by authorities of “speculation” because they have hiked their prices.

“Maduro raised the minimum salary, which was necessary, but announced a series of punitive measures that create no incentive for investment and no trust, and are set to decrease production.” Ricardo Cusanno,  Fedecamaras VP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/eat-pray-barter-like-hell-how-...
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #127 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 4:56pm
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SkyChief wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Venezuelan managers and employees of businesses have been arrested in the past few weeks, accused by authorities of “speculation” because they have hiked their prices.

“Maduro raised the minimum salary, which was necessary, but announced a series of punitive measures that create no incentive for investment and no trust, and are set to decrease production.” Ricardo Cusanno,  Fedecamaras VP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/eat-pray-barter-like-hell-how-...
When "socialism" produces bad results, there is no alternative but more tyranny... What but total tyranny can save people from the folly of tyrannical socialism and it's failures?
  
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #128 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:14pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 11:42am:
The HUGE problem with socialism is that doesn't give any incentive to excel at anything.


You could fix this very, very easily by having the government grant reproductive success to people who disproportionately support others, and spay and neuter the people being supported.

However, this doesn't make socialism moral and it's a bit like expecting pigs to crap gold in that it'll never happen.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: After seeing the collapse of the socialist Venezuela economy
Reply #129 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 2:32am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:14pm:
You could fix this very, very easily by having the government grant reproductive success to people who disproportionately support others, and spay and neuter the people being supported...


Government controls human reproduction...   Delightfully Orwellian!!

Love it!   Smiley
  
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