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Re: A Spectrum of Human Behavior
Reply #10 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:31pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Doesn't understand how inbreeding works. It enhances the traits you're breeding for at the cost of everything else.
Right, at the cost of a lot of culling of defectives and frequent long term bad results and often a total failure, the production of a line that needs to be completely terminated.

Without some diversity in the genepool, you get defectives. If you don't cull them, but instead concentrate them, the results aren't good.

Just throwing supergeniuses together and letting them breed with each other at random produces lots of defectives, as proved by the state of our college and university staffs and the "elites" in our government. Cool
  
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Re: A Spectrum of Human Behavior
Reply #11 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 11:22pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Just throwing supergeniuses together and letting them breed with each other at random


I didn't say that.

All I said was that it's a shame people who contribute nothing can afford eight babies and I can't afford any. I'd rather be enslaved, because I am a valuable resource, and so are a lot of other productive people, and they're all being squandered.

South Africa should just enslave the white people instead of telling them they can't work and they have to die in squatter camps.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: A Spectrum of Human Behavior
Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:51am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 11:22pm:
I didn't say that.

All I said was that it's a shame people who contribute nothing can afford eight babies and I can't afford any.
You oppose the transfer of wealth. That's good.
  
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Re: A Spectrum of Human Behavior
Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:55am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 11:22pm:
I didn't say that.

I'd rather be enslaved, because I am a valuable resource, and so are a lot of other productive people, and they're all being squandered.

South Africa should just enslave the white people instead of telling them they can't work and they have to die in squatter camps.
If you are a valuable resource, someone wil be willing to pay you lots of money to work for them... but you'd rather be a slave.

The economy of S. Africa will collapse if that's what they do, then S. Africans of every color will become slaves of the government, or revert to anarchy and violence, or try to escape the country. The usual story when Communists take over a country by first destroying "capitalism".
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 7:58am
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Jeff wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:51am:
You oppose the transfer of wealth. That's good.


I recognise that YOU have a right not to be stolen from.

When it's me I honestly don't give a shit. I never gave a shit about stuff. The only piece of property I own that I remotely care about isn't even a thing - it's a cat. I can't even fathom how things could be so important to anyone.

Take my money, take my clothes, take my house, take my car. They're all just things. Some of these things make me more comfortable or make my life easier, but I have zero emotional attachment to any of it.

Jeff wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:55am:
If you are a valuable resource, someone wil be willing to pay you lots of money to work for them... but you'd rather be a slave.


Again, a resource that is unowned will be squandered.

I'm as productive as any fifty welfare recipients, but no one cares whether I can afford to reproduce because that baby is just competition for their babies.

As a free person, that baby makes them worse off because it outcompetes their babies for the best job.

If they own me, and the baby, and every resource we generate is theirs, they stop thinking of that as competition and I get to reproduce.
  

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Reply #15 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 10:27am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 7:58am:
I recognise that YOU have a right not to be stolen from.

The right to own property, being a right, applies equally to everyone.
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 10:28am
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 7:58am:
Again, a resource that is unowned will be squandered.

You reject the idea of self ownership?
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:17pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 10:27am:
The right to own property, being a right, applies equally to everyone.


Everyone who has rights, and I don't.

Jeff wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 10:28am:
You reject the idea of self ownership?


When I can be gunned down and "enjoyed as a free good" it's hard to say I have self-ownership.

I'm unowned, so I'll be squandered.

Right now, anyone can gun me down. If I'm a slave, only my master can. Anyone else who tries is stealing.
  

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Re: A Spectrum of Human Behavior
Reply #18 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:44pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:17pm:
Everyone who has rights, and I don't.


Fine. You're a Russian, a subject of Putin's government. None of you there have rights. All of you are obligated to serve the State.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 6:17pm:
When I can be gunned down and "enjoyed as a free good" it's hard to say I have self-ownership.
Again, you're a Russian, a subject of Putin's government.
  
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