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Reply #90 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:59pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 6:13am:
Mostly I've said I tend to believe that you are, as you have said, an animal.

Anyway, we've just found out from my Thingy how socialists strip rights from individuals!

Now Thingy is going to tell us which rights individuals can't have because they are in conflict with the rights of "the whole".

Thingy is also going to explain what rights "the whole" has and where they come from.

I'm also interested in learning if, when I go on a fishing vacation to Canada, I become a part of the "Canadian whole" as soon as I step into Canada...




I can answer that by saying that you will be obliged to follow Canada's system as it pertains to legal and illegal behaviour. If there are any gray areas as to some differences in our systems then you should make sure you're aware of them before coming to Canada.

One big difference that comes to mind is that you won't be allowed to bring any of your handguns to Canada without special permission. But our border officers will make you aware of that!

Otherwise, welcome!

You'll be allowed to promote your political preferences without fear of reprisals. We don't fear any politics, we know what we want and we have it.
  
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Re: How a Libertarian Strips Rights: A Challenge
Reply #91 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 4:37pm
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I can answer that by saying that you will be obliged to follow Canada's system as it pertains to legal and illegal behaviour. If there are any gray areas as to some differences in our systems then you should make sure you're aware of them before coming to Canada.

One big difference that comes to mind is that you won't be allowed to bring any of your handguns to Canada without special permission. But our border officers will make you aware of that!

Otherwise, welcome!

You'll be allowed to promote your political preferences without fear of reprisals. We don't fear any politics, we know what we want and we have it.
This is not the answer you promised Thingy! Embarrassed

You were going to tell us which individual rights must give way before the rights of "the whole", and give some examples of the rights possessed by "the whole".

(And I was hoping you'd tell me if I become part of the Canadian  "whole" as soon as I drive across the border, and the process involved... Magic?)
  
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Re: How a Libertarian Strips Rights: A Challenge
Reply #92 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 6:52pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
This is not the answer you promised Thingy! Embarrassed

You were going to tell us which individual rights must give way before the rights of "the whole", and give some examples of the rights possessed by "the whole".

(And I was hoping you'd tell me if I become part of the Canadian  "whole" as soon as I drive across the border, and the process involved... Magic?)
I think this is fundamentally important Thingy.
  
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Reply #93 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:56pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
I think this is fundamentally important Thingy.


Are you coming to go fishing in Canada? Buy a license and have a good time. Come to B.C. and I'll guide you myself for free and you'll catch fish of your dreams. After all, you're the boss.

Would you insist on keeping your 'whole' fish or could we share them?
  
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Reply #94 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:35pm
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Are you coming to go fishing in Canada?
Yes, but I will be sneaking across the border and bribing Canadian friends with tobacco and booze so they will take me where I can enjoy fishing with little risk unless I decide to be stupid and screw with a moose or the local people.

Will I be part of the Canadian "whole" while I am there?

How does that work? Earth Fairy magic?
  
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Reply #95 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:39pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
Yes, but I will be sneaking across the border and bribing Canadian friends with tobacco and booze so they will take me where I can enjoy fishing with little risk unless I decide to be stupid and screw with a moose or the local people.

Will I be part of the Canadian "whole" while I am there?

How does that work? Earth Fairy magic?

I've reported your intentions to the police and given them your full name and address. have a nice visit!  Cheesy
  
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Reply #96 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:59pm
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I've reported your intentions to the police and given them your full name and address. have a nice visit!  Cheesy
Mounties will be after me?

You know I am rich, but neither you or the Mounties know who my Canadian friends are, and I won't be going into Canada with any Central American or South American refugees...

How are the Mounties doing with catching those folks? Not very well and it's keeping them busy?

I'll be fine and have fun... But will I really be a part of the Canadian "whole" while I'm there?

That would be sooo cool... I've never been part of any "whole" before!
  
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Reply #97 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:09pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:59pm:
Mounties will be after me?

You know I am rich, but neither you or the Mounties know who my Canadian friends are, and I won't be going into Canada with any Central American or South American refugees...

How are the Mounties doing with catching those folks? Not very well and it's keeping them busy?

I'll be fine and have fun... But will I really be a part of the Canadian "whole" while I'm there?

That would be sooo cool... I've never been part of any "whole" before!

I reported you to the OPP. When you come to Canada you will have to bring your own wonder bread. It's a wonder they call it bread. You'll find 'whole'wheat bread everywhere.

And that's a wrap for today because you've 'gone off'.
  
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Re: How a Libertarian Strips Rights: A Challenge
Reply #98 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:20pm
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I reported you to the OPP. When you come to Canada you will have to bring your own wonder bread. It's a wonder they call it bread. You'll find 'whole'wheat bread everywhere.

And that's a wrap for today because you've 'gone off'.
For the past 20 years, I have always gone to Canada from Voltar! The Mounties won't find me, ever, unless they turn one of my Canadian friends... Cry (Edit: Some of my Canadian friends are Voltarians, but still part of the Canadian "whole", right? Because they are in Canada.)

It doesn't matter how I enter Canada does it? I'll still be part of the Canadian "whole" while I'm there? That's so cool!

Are there benefits I should apply for?
  
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Re: How a Libertarian Strips Rights: A Challenge
Reply #99 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:01pm
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The Opposition wrote on Aug 1st, 2018 at 10:31pm:
I recognise and accept that I do not have rights. In other words, I agree with Jeff, Kaz, Don, and Merklestan


Strawman.  Jeff said you don't have rights, I've consistently said you do.  Rights in this context are restrictions on government power.   They don't go away just because you don't demand them.

If it make you feel better, I don't give a shit about your rights since you don't want them.  But it's false to say I ever said you don't have them
  

Contest winner:  I predicted Kaz' meltdown
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