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Reply #10 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:14pm
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N567 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Why is North Korea fully democratic? It is a totalitarian communist state.
Everybody must vote for Young Kim in democratic elections.

It's even the first thing in the name of the country, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:18pm
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N567 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
At least we have more deregulation and more freedom than any other country in the world.
Not true. We have been falling steadily in all the freedom indexes.

We are down to #18 in economic freedom-

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
Everybody must vote for Young Kim in democratic elections.

It's even the first thing in the name of the country, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.


Yes, it is democratic in name only.

Jeff wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Not true. We have been falling steadily in all the freedom indexes.

We are down to #18 in economic freedom-

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking


That is bad, that means that the Libertarian policies of some good US presidents is being counteracted by the authoriarianism of the right and left, especially the right wing creationists and left wing SJW's.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:52pm
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N567 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Yes, it is democratic in name only.


As were all the democracies known throughout history.

That's part of my point. Democracy has serious inherent defects that always cause bad results.

This has been known for hundreds of years in civilized places in the world...
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:57pm
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N567 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
That is bad, that means that the Libertarian policies of some good US presidents is being counteracted by the authoriarianism of the right and left, especially the right wing creationists and left wing SJW's.
More and more "democracy" and "socialism" have been the problem all along, and it only happened because our government decided to grant itself more power. It was happening gradually and incrementally since the beginning, but FDRs immorally dishonest Supreme Court opened the floodgates by declaring the commerce and general welfare clauses to be grants of general power... And that's how they have been used, increasingly frequently, since FDR's New Deal, which helped prevent an economic recovery after the '29 Crash.
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:01pm
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Sorry to leave you by yourself again boss but I gotta go, with a full hour left in you before you go off.

Not that we didn't accomplish a little bit of understanding today!

If the chief sticks it out, he's all yours to ruin, humiliate, rape, whatever you want to use him for.

Beware of earning a laughing man!  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:21pm
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Sorry to leave you by yourself again boss but I gotta go, with a full hour left in you before you go off.

Not that we didn't accomplish a little bit of understanding today!

If the chief sticks it out, he's all yours to ruin, humiliate, rape, whatever you want to use him for.

Beware of earning a laughing man!  Roll Eyes
You're a sorry sack of shit Thingy.
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 5:52pm
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I'm obviously not questioning whether they were libertarian presidents or not. Obviously they weren't and none will ever be without some necessary changes to the LP agenda.

The PL agenda will never change, Dink.   Because no changes are necessary. The LP agenda is perfect as is.

Instead of trying to change the LP agenda, you might want to look at the Green Party's agenda.  It's right up your alley:

• Heavy, Progressive Income Tax on corporations

• Does NOT support a Flat Tax.

• Income Tax Raises on wealthy individuals.

• Redistribution of wealth by taxation.

• Supports Universal Basic Income (government hand-outs to everyone)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Green_Party_Tax_Reform.htm



  
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Reply #18 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:24pm
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I like to look at the similarities between the Greens and the Libertarians. As it plain to notice, the Libertarian impossible agenda items aren't to be considered.

Both parties are Non-Interventionist

Both Parties want to legalize Marijuana

Both Parties want to end goverment discrimination. (Although Libertarians will allow individual workplace discrimination)

Both want to make federal elections fairer for third parties.

Both want legal Abortions (Though Libertarians want to end government funded abortions)

Both want less strict immigration laws (many libertarians only pretend)

Both want to end the Death Penalty.

I can see a real possibility of unifying into one party even though it will take some sensible steps  back to real life for the LP.

The first mentally stable person who comes along will do for a leader. He couldn't be worse than Gary.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:50pm
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I like to look at the similarities between the Greens and the Libertarians. As it plain to notice, the Libertarian impossible agenda items aren't to be considered.

Both parties are Non-Interventionist

Both Parties want to legalize Marijuana

Both Parties want to end goverment discrimination. (Although Libertarians will allow individual workplace discrimination)

Both want to make federal elections fairer for third parties.

Both want legal Abortions (Though Libertarians want to end government funded abortions)

Both want less strict immigration laws (many libertarians only pretend)

Both want to end the Death Penalty.

I can see a real possibility of unifying into one party even though it will take some sensible steps  back to real life for the LP.

The first mentally stable person who comes along will do for a leader. He couldn't be worse than Gary.

There is some common ground between the L.P. and the Green Party - no doubt. 

But there are striking differences, too. 

The most striking is Taxes.  The Green Party favors a heavy, progressive Income Tax, and the Libertarian Party adamantly  opposes it.

Progressive Taxation is what distinguishes each Party from each other.   

If the L.P.  were to adopt the Green Party position of progressive Income Tax, there would be no Libertarian Party.

We're sticking to our guns!

Pun intended!   Wink

  
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