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Reply #20 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:19pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 3:11pm:
Libertarians of all Faiths and no faith oppose tyranny too.

Absolutely true.   But Christians have power in their numbers.  So, right now, they are the force to be reckoned with!
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 7:41am
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
Absolutely true.   But Christians have power in their numbers.  So, right now, they are the force to be reckoned with!
I don't see any problems Chief. I see problems with "progressives" openly advocating communism and calling for complete takeover of the government so they can implement a "socialist system" that will fundamentally change America (after economic liberty is completely destroyed).

What problems do you see with Christians that are even close to comparable?
  
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Re: Why Globalization is a Problem
Reply #22 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:37pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 7:41am:
I don't see any problems Chief. I see problems with "progressives" openly advocating communism and calling for complete takeover of the government so they can implement a "socialist system" that will fundamentally change America (after economic liberty is completely destroyed).

This is essentially what I said in an earlier post:

SkyChief wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 12:26pm:
The New World Order was envisioned to be a totalitarian world government comprised by a secretive power elite.

This threatened to be an anti-Christian governing body so naturally the evangelicals voiced opposition to the plan. 
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
This is essentially what I said in an earlier post:

Right, and then you said that "Christians are the force to be reckoned with."

I guess you meant libertarians should welcome Christians into our mutual struggle for liberty...
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:19pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Right, and then you said that "Christians are the force to be reckoned with."

I guess you meant libertarians should welcome Christians into our mutual struggle for liberty...

I meant that because of the (large) number of Christians, the NWO cabal has hit a formidable resistance. Making further headway is becoming increasingly difficult.

Also, Trump has expressed contempt for European socialism, which presents yet another hurdle for the NWO globalists.
  
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Reply #25 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:33pm
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SkyChief wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
I meant that because of the (large) number of Christians, the NWO cabal has hit a formidable resistance. Making further headway is becoming increasingly difficult.

Also, Trump has expressed contempt for European socialism, which presents yet another hurdle for the NWO globalists.

Huh...

So it was previously assumed that European "socialists" headquartered in Brussels would be allowed to take over the world, and Trump stopped them?

I always assumed the problem would be that competing tyrannical bullies from all sorts of different countries would want to be Supreme Leader of Earth, and they would be willing to fight over the potential power and wealth.

It's part of why I always thought even talk of global government was very dangerous.
  
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Reply #26 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:03pm
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Jeff wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
Huh...

So it was previously assumed that European "socialists" headquartered in Brussels would be allowed to take over the world, and Trump stopped them?

Stopped?  No.. but he took a lot of wind out of their sails.   

Jeff wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
I always assumed the problem would be that competing tyrannical bullies from all sorts of different countries would want to be Supreme Leader of Earth, and they would be willing to fight over the potential power and wealth.

It's part of why I always thought even talk of global government was very dangerous.


H.G. Wells wrote a book published in 1940 entitled The New World Order.

Wells' New World Order is a utopian world without war in which law and order emanated from a centralised world governing body (Brussels).

The fundamental concept is flawed because ignores man's inherent desire to make War.

We are tribal - it's programmed in our DNA!

Its fundamentally the same as the New World Order which George H.W. Bush spoke about:

"A NEW WORLD ORDER - where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind - peace, security, freedom, and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle and worthy of our children's future."


Bush's NWO is flawed like Wells' NWO, and for the same reason.  The goal of a world without war, and common Laws among all nations is unattainable.

The Belgian elites will want to take American's guns.  We won't give them up, and there will be another War!  Angry
  
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Re: Why Globalization is a Problem
Reply #27 - Dec 26th, 2018 at 5:17pm
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It's really quite simple - - the highest stakes game in the world is world conquest, of course.

How to conquer so many countries?        Make them all into one country.

How to make them all into one country?     Make borders insignificant.    Tear down border walls.

How do you make borders insignificant?   Obscure cultural, racial, language and religion distinctions of nations.
  
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Reply #28 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 8:26am
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SkyChief wrote on Dec 26th, 2018 at 5:17pm:
It's really quite simple - - the highest stakes game in the world is world conquest, of course.

How to conquer so many countries?        Make them all into one country.

How to make them all into one country?     Make borders insignificant.    Tear down border walls.

How do you make borders insignificant?   Obscure cultural, racial, language and religion distinctions of nations.
What about the creation of the United States, where thirteen independent nations got together and agreed to create one limited federal government that would make their borders almost insignificant while allowing each state to retain whatever distinctions it thought important (within limits) and at the same time permitting individuals to choose (and create) whatever sort of cultures and religions they preferred and to travel and migrate freely throughout the several states?

Many of the founders of America had a vision of the entire world becoming a part of such a vision, and hoped it would come about naturally as other nations saw the benefits...

Of course others (call them "progressives") thought that the power of government should be used to conquer territory and forcibly include it in the vision... And that worked out pretty well in practice for quite a while, but somehow it morphed into a vision of making the entire world "safe for democracy".

The current libertarian idea is to lead by the example of individual liberty and free trade, which is pretty much the vision of many of the (liberal) founders.

BTW, the original posted link talks about predatory globalization of trade permitted/created by the lack of sound money.
  
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Re: Why Globalization is a Problem
Reply #29 - Dec 27th, 2018 at 12:19pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 27th, 2018 at 8:26am:
...thirteen independent nations got together and agreed to create one limited federal government that would make their borders almost insignificant...

The key word here is LIMITED.   in 1913, the Progressive movement changed the goal and scope of federal government.  Congress delegated the power to create money to a banking cartel (Federal Reserve).

The Fed is exempt from oversight - they are free to do whatever they want.  Naturally, the Fed will make policy to transfer wealth from individual citizens to the Bank. 

Our currency [Federal Reserve Note] is no longer representative of wealth - it's now representative of debt

Jeff wrote on Dec 27th, 2018 at 8:26am:
Of course others (call them "progressives") thought that the power of government should be used to conquer territory and forcibly include it in the vision... And that worked out pretty well in practice for quite a while, but somehow it morphed into a vision of making the entire world "safe for democracy".

Yep.   This "vision" was the impetus to create the New World Order - the US would (using Military might) spread democracy around the world.

"Nation-building" was a grand plan - which ultimately failed.  The worst part is, the US is still doing it - at great cost to taxpayers and our soldiers who lose their lives.



  
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