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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #220 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
If you want equality, how about no owning guns in a residential area?
What? You want only the police and the ghetto gangs to have guns?

How is that even remotely connected to equality?

This is what I meant about your growing irrationality.

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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #221 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:45pm
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You said no chickens in a residential area, so I proposed no guns in a residential area.

I know this is absurd, because the rights you want are absolute and only the rights I want have lots of caveats, I'm just demonstrating that rights make people unequal, not equal.

The whole point of rights is so bullies get what they want and people who want chickens do not.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #222 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
You said no chickens in a residential area, so I proposed no guns in a residential area.

I know this is absurd...
Yes, it is.

The right to own arms is not absolute. If you use your guns to rob and murder, your right will justifiably be restricted or removed entirely.
  
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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #223 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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Problems with using deadly force to prevent theft is:

1, dead thieves become martyrs and that causes more folk to dislike guns;

2, dead thieves can't take my place or your place in United States Armed Forces if there's a military draft (yes, there's talks about drafting women into United States Armed Forces);

3, dead thieves can't do involuntary servitude to directly proportionally work to pay owners of property that said thieves stole;

4, dead thieves will be missed by loved ones and that causes boycotts;

5, dead thieves can't eventually become friends with owners of property that said thieves stole;

6, karmic backlash "friends and family, of dead thieves, could perhaps eventually legally do unto you as you did unto said thieves"?

Note that the above are null and void if divine magic or supernatural persons use magic or cloning is used to resurrect dead thieves.
  
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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #224 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:03pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:45pm:
I know this is absurd, because the rights you want are absolute and only the rights I want have lots of caveats, I'm just demonstrating that rights make people unequal, not equal.

The whole point of rights is so bullies get what they want and people who want chickens do not.


Thanks for clipping the relevant part of my post.
  

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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #225 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:05pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
1, dead thieves become martyrs and that causes more folk to dislike guns;


This is actually a very relevant point.

The liberal media won't allow effective use of guns because they can spin you to be the bad guy if you self-defend, especially if you kill the thief.

The liberal media gets its bad guy, and everyone loses their guns.
  

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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #226 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:42pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:05pm:
This is actually a very relevant point.

The liberal media won't allow effective use of guns because they can spin you to be the bad guy if you self-defend, especially if you kill the thief.

The liberal media gets its bad guy, and everyone loses their guns.
Does this problem you have, this brain defect involving a lack of "mirror neurons" cause you to be simple minded?

Does the defect cause extensive problems?
  
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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #227 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 4:52pm
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AlayneLeung wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 11:35am:
In Missouri, there is or perhaps will be a new law that prohibits any person(s) under 18 years of age from getting a driving license or piloting license or hunting license if she or he they commit(s) theft while under 18 years of age; if she or he they steal(s), then she or he or they doesn't or don't get a driving license for a number of years equal to age that she or he or they is or are or was when she or he or they did said theft; that theft has to be video recorded or that theft (such as a car stolen) must be tracked by police.  Missouri has a "No pay, no license" law that prohibits driving license(s) from being given to any person(s) that drive away without paying for fuel she or he or they got from a fuel station.

What's with the parentheses around all the S's?
  

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Re: Using Deadly Force to Prevent Theft
Reply #228 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 5:23pm
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Josh wrote on Oct 13th, 2018 at 4:52pm:
What's with the parentheses around all the S's?
It's probably a genetic thing, caused by a deficiency of mirror neurons. To be polite I just read over it. It's much easier than trying to read most of thermie's garbled nonsense, which most of her posts are. Cry
  
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