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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #190 - Oct 25th, 2018 at 9:06pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
No, it's a natural right. I'm positive of that!



Unless there's a  vote, of course.

  

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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #191 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 9:24am
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Unless there's a  vote, of course.

Although rights are Natural and inherent in each person, they are not absolute.

That's where you get led into fanaticism and extremism, by believing that rights are absolute.
  
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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #192 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 9:29am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
If it's to something dangerous, like a chicken, yes.

If it's to something harmless, like a gun, then no.



You have a right to own either or both, but the right is not absolute in either case. The rights of others must be considered.

For example, if you use your rightfully owned gun to murder people, your right to own a gun can be removed.

For another example, if you keep your chicken in such a way that you create a hazard to the health of others, your right to keep a chicken the way you are keeping it can be constrained.
  
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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #193 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 11:35am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 9:29am:
You have a right to own either or both, but the right is not absolute in either case.


When are rights absolute?

  

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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #194 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 1:14pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 11:35am:
When are rights absolute?

I thought you believed that rights are always absolute? Why don't you tell me when rights are absolute.

Since you have such a poor record of answering questions, I'll tell you what I think; Rights are absolute whenever they are exercised without harming others or interfering with the equal rights of others.
  
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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #195 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:33pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
I thought you believed that rights are always absolute? Why don't you tell me when rights are absolute.

Since you have such a poor record of answering questions, I'll tell you what I think; Rights are absolute whenever they are exercised without harming others or interfering with the equal rights of others.


So how does my exercising the right to keep my money instead of having it forcibly taken for public school harm others or interfere with the rights of others?

I hope you are not going to say that I harms children by not giving an education to them or that children have a right to an education that I interfere with by not paying for it. 

But I can't imagine what else your answer would be so I look forward to your answer.
  

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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #196 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
So how does my exercising the right to keep my money instead of having it forcibly taken for public school harm others or interfere with the rights of others?

I hope you are not going to say that I harms children by not giving an education to them or that children have a right to an education that I interfere with by not paying for it. 

But I can't imagine what else your answer would be so I look forward to your answer.
All I have is more questions...

I take it that you are now a non-absolutist?


  
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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #197 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:50pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
So how does my exercising the right to keep my money instead of having it forcibly taken for public school harm others or interfere with the rights of others?


I have the feeling that this attitude of yours is harming you. When I think about it in conjunction with your anarchistic bent, well, I just can't see any good coming of it.
  
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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #198 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:53pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
All I have is more questions...





Let me know when you have answers . . .
  

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Re: Find the Aggression - Part 1
Reply #199 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 4:03pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 3:53pm:
Let me know when you have answers . . .
You hate my answers and try to distort them when you don't ignore them outright. You are also stepping up your frequency of lying directly about what I said.

Edit: When are rights absolute?
  
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