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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #110 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 1:43pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:31am:
Offering violent resistance to people who come to commit theft is not a radical idea.  It’s the normal reaction.



So you say. It's not the normal reaction to agents of the government going about their business.
  
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Reply #111 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 3:12pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
So you say. It's not the normal reaction to agents of the government going about their business.


So it is always abnormal to resist any action by the government?

  

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Reply #112 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 4:29pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
So it is always abnormal to resist any action by the government?

Most people think it's a bad idea to threaten agents of the government with bodily harm or death.

You're supposed to be the mind scientist here, analyze yourself. My guess is you have some mental disorder that makes you want to kill authority figures of all kinds.
  
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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #113 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 5:12pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 4:29pm:
Most people think it's a bad idea to threaten agents of the government with bodily harm or death.


Oh, it certainly is.

But is it always immoral to resist the actions of government agents?


  

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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #114 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 5:27pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 5:12pm:
But is it always immoral to resist the actions of government agents?


How can you so consistently frame your questions so badly? You must be a supergenius.

Does every question have to be about "always" or "never"?

In practical terms, it's best to resist government action through legal processes and try to see individual government agents as people.
  
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Reply #115 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 1:54pm
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Stockton, California Begins UBI Program In 2019


Early in 2019, 100 randomly selected lower-income residents of Stockton, Calif., will start to receive $500 a month.

If socialism is going to begin anywhere in the US, it should be in California, says 28-yr-old Oakland Mayor Michael Tubbs:

“Providing people cash with no strings attached is a form of empowerment.”

Democrat-Socialist Bernie Sanders endorsed Tubbs in 2012 at the beginning of his political career.

The slippery-slope towards socialism begins. What a wild ride it will be!   Whe-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e!!!Cheesy

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-case-for-paying-every-american-a-dividend-...

  
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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #116 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 1:57pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 5:27pm:
How can you so consistently frame your questions so badly? You must be a supergenius.

Does every question have to be about "always" or "never"?

In practical terms, it's best to resist government action through legal processes and try to see individual government agents as people.


Do government agents see me as a person, Non-absolute?

It wont’ seem that way when they put me in a cage with people who act like wild animals.

  

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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #117 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:24pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Do government agents see me as a person, Non-absolute?
Not when you use violence to resist arrest.
  
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Reply #118 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
Stockton, California Begins UBI Program In 2019


Early in 2019, 100 randomly selected lower-income residents of Stockton, Calif., will start to receive $500 a month.

If socialism is going to begin anywhere in the US, it should be in California, says 28-yr-old Oakland Mayor Michael Tubbs:

“Providing people cash with no strings attached is a form of empowerment.”

Democrat-Socialist Bernie Sanders endorsed Tubbs in 2012 at the beginning of his political career.

The slippery-slope towards socialism begins. What a wild ride it will be!   Whe-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e!!!Cheesy

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-case-for-paying-every-american-a-dividend-...


$500/month, but only to a random few people who really need more money?

What could they expect to learn?
  
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Re: Swiss Prepare To Launch Another UBI Experiment
Reply #119 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:34pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
$500/month, but only to a random few people who really need more money?

It's a pilot program much like the UBI experiment in Switzerland.


Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
What could they expect to learn?

It seems to be a grand wealth-redistribution scheme. 

Venezuela did it wrong, made a mess, so Democratic Socialists want to learn how long the program lasts before taxpayers finally say enough is enough.

If you read the linked article, you will find that this pilot program in Stockton is a launching pad for a Federal UBI plan where ALL Americans receive free money from the government.

The people who get stuck with the bill are gonna pissed - I guarantee it.
  
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