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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #20 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 3:08pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Yes, he got blow jobs from a girl that worked in his offices.
We spent a lot of time debating this issue on the forum before you were here.

My position is that men in positions of power abuse that power when they take advantage of young people who are seduced by the idea of power.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #21 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 3:39pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 3:08pm:
We spent a lot of time debating this issue on the forum before you were here.

My position is that men in positions of power abuse that power when they take advantage of young people who are seduced by the idea of power.


Yes, that happens a lot.  Handsome men take advantage of girls who are seduced by good looks.   Rich men take advantage of gold-diggers.

I hardly see how any of that rises to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors." 
  

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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #22 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:45pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 3:39pm:
Yes, that happens a lot.  Handsome men take advantage of girls who are seduced by good looks.   Rich men take advantage of gold-diggers.

I hardly see how any of that rises to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors." 
Rich and handsome is one thing, President of the United States of America, the most powerful nation in the world, is quite another.

Here's news, anything less than a felony is a misdemeanor. If a President commits several misdemeanors, you'd best get rid of him.

Lying to Congress will get us ordinary folk clapped in jail.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-penalties-for-lying-to-co...

Edit: Did you notice that Bill Clinton, just like Hillary, committed federal crimes that carry penalties of jail time for regular folks?
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #23 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:59am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:45pm:
Rich and handsome is one thing, President of the United States of America, the most powerful nation in the world, is quite another.

Here's news, anything less than a felony is a misdemeanor. If a President commits several misdemeanors, you'd best get rid of him.

Lying to Congress will get us ordinary folk clapped in jail.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/03/what-are-the-penalties-for-lying-to-co...

Edit: Did you notice that Bill Clinton, just like Hillary, committed federal crimes that carry penalties of jail time for regular folks?


Well, yes.  But they’re in government so they got a pass.  Did you really not know that government works that way???
  

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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #24 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:19am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 12:13am:
Are all Nazis bad? Like, literal members of the literal Nazi Party.
What does that have to do with what we are discussing?

National Socialism is an unworkable idea that violates rights in order to be established and maintained and has proven to have bad results.

Good people can be deluded into thinking bad ideas will have good outcomes and are therefore good ideas.


  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #25 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:20am
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:59am:
Well, yes.  But they’re in government so they got a pass.  Did you really not know that government works that way???
Crony governments that pervert the idea of justice work that way.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #26 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:58am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:20am:
Crony governments that pervert the idea of justice work that way.


Name governments that don't work that way.
  

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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #27 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:17am
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:58am:
Name governments that don't work that way.
You mean every current government in the world is corrupt and allows corruption by those it favors?

Maybe you're right.

Let's see what we can do to clean up our own government.

I know you think it can't be done. If it can't, there's no sense at all in you whining about ending taxation, because that surely can't be done either.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #28 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:56am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:17am:
You mean every current government in the world is corrupt and allows corruption by those it favors?

Maybe you're right.

Let's see what we can do to clean up our own government.

I know you think it can't be done. If it can't, there's no sense at all in you whining about ending taxation, because that surely can't be done either.


Government cannot be cleaned up.  It’s by nature a dirty enterprise..  Anarchy is impossible, because government is too lucrative to those unable to earn in the free market but willing to use violence to gain the earnings of those who are able.  End government and another will spring up from the depths of human depravity.

It can only be kept as small as possible to minimize the spread of the vermin.  The first step is for citizens to be at least as well armed as government.  The next step is to shoot the first person who tries to use government as a means to steal.  Government racketeers understand nothing but powder and lead.  Then kill the the second would be “moral thief,” the third, etc., probably forever.

That may sound like a lot of bloodshed, but not even in the same ballpark with all the blood government sheds in its wars, so there would be far fewer deaths.

  

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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #29 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:31pm
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Little Big Man wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:56am:
Government cannot be cleaned up.  It’s by nature a dirty enterprise..
You argue for strictly limited government. Good job!
  
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