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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #90 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:42pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
What are they claiming are grounds for his impeachment?

They still believe that Kavanaugh assaulted Dr. Ford at that party in 1982. 

They claim the last FBI investigation was just a silly dog-and-pony show.

Which it was -  I recall stating that in an earlier post.  Everyone knew that the investigation would reveal nothing, and was a complete waste of time/government resources.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #91 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 5:36pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
They still believe that Kavanaugh assaulted Dr. Ford at that party in 1982. 

They claim the last FBI investigation was just a silly dog-and-pony show.

Which it was -  I recall stating that in an earlier post.  Everyone knew that the investigation would reveal nothing, and was a complete waste of time/government resources.
An impeachment proceeding will be even worse.

When the Senate asks the House to send it's indictment and the evidence that supports it, what will the House have to send?

Will any sane Senate convict a confirmed Supreme Court Justice, one that was just confirmed by the Senate? With no more than "She has clear memories of parts of some things that happened a really long time ago, that she never told anyone about at the time." At least there is no record that she told who she should have told.

An impeachment proceeding will nevertheless be demanded by radicals in the House, and I've heard there is a sneaky new plan that will enable the Democratic Socialist to win the House.

It will be the biggest and most wasteful circus to date, but it will distract a lot of people, especially if the Democratic Socialist leaning media make sure to beat the drum all day everyday.

They have experience from the Vietnam war and Nixon's removal from office, which he soundly deserved. The House should have held a pro forma impeachment of him anyway, just to air out all the real evidence.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #92 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:33pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 5:36pm:
An impeachment proceeding will be even worse.

When the Senate asks the House to send it's indictment and the evidence that supports it, what will the House have to send?
Sworn testimony by Dr. Ford.


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Will any sane Senate convict a confirmed Supreme Court Justice, one that was just confirmed by the Senate?
  I believe there is precedent -   in 1805,  SC Justice Samuel Chase was impeached.  He was exonerated by the Senate. The Dems have been clear - they hope to have control of the Senate before they move to impeach Justice "Kav".

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An impeachment proceeding will nevertheless be demanded by radicals in the House, and I've heard there is a sneaky new plan that will enable the Democratic Socialist to win the House.
They are sneaky snakes!!      THEY. WILL. NEVER. STOP.     Smiley   Grin
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #93 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:43pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:33pm:
Sworn testimony by Dr. Ford.


 
Yawn.

There will also be sworn testimony from Kavanaugh. I just hope the House thinks to compare Kavanaugh's record as  Judge to Ford's record as a Social Justice Warrior.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #94 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:49pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:33pm:
I believe there is precedent -   in 1805,  SC Justice Samuel Chase was impeached.
He was impeached for letting partisan politics enter into his decisions.

I have no idea if that is true or not, but the Senate didn't think so.

I don't think there is any indication of partisan prejudice in any of Kavanaugh's opinions.

Of course the Democratic Socialists say anything that opposes them is partisan, even if the grounds for the opposition are not partisan.

Don't like abortion on moral or religious grounds? That makes you the worst sort of evil political partisan according to the Democratic Socialists anyway.

It would be entertaining to see an explanation of the charge and see the evidence if they plan to impeach Kavanaugh for being partisan!
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #95 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:02pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Yawn.

There will also be sworn testimony from Kavanaugh. I just hope the House thinks to compare Kavanaugh's record as  Judge to Ford's record as a Social Justice Warrior.

I can guarantee any impeachment hearing will be a lot bloodier than his confirmation hearings.

They will try to destroy Kavanaugh. They just roughed him up a little during the confirmation hearings.

Of course, the preponderance of evidence will be greater during an impeachment hearing.

Meaning that unless Dr. Ford can produce a video tape of "the Kav" assaulting her, or an article of her 1982 clothing stained by Kavanaugh's DNA, he would be most likely be acquitted for lack of evidence.

Also, there is no "nuclear option" with an impeachment hearing, so it would require a two-thirds vote to convict.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #96 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:07pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
Of course, the preponderance of evidence will be greater during an impeachment hearing.

Meaning that unless Dr. Ford can produce a video tape of "the Kav" assaulting her, or an article of her 1982 clothing stained by Kavanaugh's DNA, he would be most likely acquitted for lack of evidence.

Right, sworn testimony isn't evidence and there isn't any evidence.

BTW, impeachment is the equivalent of being indicted by a grand jury. No one is convicted by impeachment, the conviction must come by a trial in the Senate...

How do you have a trial with no evidence? You can't.
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #97 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
Right, sworn testimony isn't evidence and there isn't any evidence.

BTW, impeachment is the equivalent of being indicted by a grand jury. No one is convicted by impeachment, the conviction must come by a trial in the Senate...

How do you have a trial with no evidence? You can't.

Dems have a tendency to over-play their hand.  This was plainly evident during the Kav's confirmation hearings.

They offered literally ZERO corroborating testimony, they offered ZERO witnesses.  It was pathetic.

And they still think Kavanaugh was given preferential treatment by "greedy, rich, white males."

Everything hinges on the results from the mid-term elections.

If the Dems can take the House, they may proceed with articles of impeachment.

I predict they won't, because of what we've agreed on -- the lack of evidence all but guarantees that the Kav will not be impeached.

But there IS a wrinkle which Dems may exploit to impeach:

  U.S. Constitution - Article 3 Section 1.

The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior,...

If Dems can show that Kavanaugh lied during the confirmation hearings (and it seems he DID lie about some things), that is certainly NOT good behavior, and may be grounds to remove Kav from his SCOTUS seat!
  
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Re: Hard to Sympathize with Kavanaugh
Reply #99 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:03am
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They should be concentrating on Trump if anyone-

https://reason.com/blog/2018/10/08/trump-finances-subsidies-tax-fraud?utm_medium...

Or maybe thinking about impeaching Ginsberg for incompetence?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-ha...
  
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