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Assume This is True: Find the Aggression - Part 2!
Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:50pm
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(Hint: Nothing George Soros is doing is aggression.)

I believe George Soros should be praised by every libertarian. He's causing war, chaos, and death on a mass scale, all while making a profit and not engaging in the least little bit of aggression himself.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Re: Assume This is True: Find the Aggression - Part 2!
Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:26am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:50pm:


(Hint: Nothing George Soros is doing is aggression.)

I believe George Soros should be praised by every libertarian. He's causing war, chaos, and death on a mass scale, all while making a profit and not engaging in the least little bit of aggression himself.
Hiring someone to kill your Mother initiates aggression lizard.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 12:32pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:26am:
Hiring someone to kill your Mother initiates aggression lizard.


Well, if I do it, sure. But not if George Soros does it.
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 2:31pm
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Well, if I do it, sure. But not if George Soros does it.
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 4:50pm
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:50pm:
I believe George Soros should be praised by every libertarian. He's causing war, chaos, and death on a mass scale, all while making a profit and not engaging in the least little bit of aggression himself.

Even if he wasn't funding so many enemies of liberty, libertarians still wouldn't like him for the war and chaos and death stuff.

Come to think of it, war and chaos are enemies of liberty.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:18am
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Lizard, do you also think libertarians should praise LBJ, G.W. Bush, Clinton and Obama for these actions and policies?

http://thecrux.com/the-four-disastrous-presidential-policies-that-are-destroying...
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:37am
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Jeff wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:18am:
Lizard, do you also think libertarians should praise LBJ, G.W. Bush, Clinton and Obama for these actions and policies?

http://thecrux.com/the-four-disastrous-presidential-policies-that-are-destroying...


Of course not. These men have committed aggression. As members of government - presidents - they have used force every moment of every day.

George Soros has not. George Soros is not a government.

Same results - destruction and war - but in your cases, aggression was employed, and in the case of George Soros, there is no aggression. In fact, George Soros is toppling aggression by destroying aggressive governments and the societies they create.
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:22pm
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:37am:
Of course not. These men have committed aggression. As members of government - presidents - they have used force every moment of every day.

George Soros has not. George Soros is not a government.

Same results - destruction and war - but in your cases, aggression was employed, and in the case of George Soros, there is no aggression. In fact, George Soros is toppling aggression by destroying aggressive governments and the societies they create.
I'm having trouble with the idea that creating war and chaos, death and destruction is not aggression when private actors engage in it, but is when governments do it.

Do you know what Soros has planned after he topples governments and creates anarchic situations? Or what the most likely outcome is?

Surprise! It's an even more aggressive government. Cry
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:23pm
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Jeff wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
I'm having trouble with the idea that creating war and chaos, death and destruction is not aggression when private actors engage in it, but is when governments do it.


Don't hit, don't steal. Period.

George Soros did neither. Governments do both.

Jeff wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Do you know what Soros has planned after he topples governments and creates anarchic situations? Or what the most likely outcome is?

Surprise! It's an even more aggressive government. Cry


Then that government will be guilty of aggression.

George Soros will not.
  

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Reply #9 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:03am
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The Opposition wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Don't hit, don't steal. Period.

George Soros did neither. Governments do both.


Funding aggression is aggression.
  
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