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Ideal Replacement for Nikki Haley - The Definitive Answer
Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:56am
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The ideal next U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations is . . . Nobody!

Severe all ties with that ridiculous organization, kick them out of that expensive real estate and start leasing the office space to productive people who contribute to society by making profits.

That's yet another way the government could operate without theft:  lease out some or all of the wasteful "national forests" and the offices of federal buildings now housing agencies that are badly in need of downsizing to zero.

BTW, my answer is definitive as I stated, so if you have other candidates in mind, please start another thread.

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Re: Ideal Replacement for Nikki Haley - The Definitive Answer
Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 11:29am
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Hear hear!!

Finally.  Someone with the guts to say it.

Salute, Red.   Smiley

While we're at it, bow out of NATO too.  What a money-pit!

"Let our affairs be disentangled from those of all other nations, except as to commerce" - Thomas Jefferson
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 5:50pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:56am:
The ideal next U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations is . . . Nobody!

The Donald will do that?

Good for him. He could yet be the next George Washington.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 5:54pm
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SkyChief wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 11:29am:
While we're at it, bow out of NATO too.
You realize the UN and NATO are not even remotely similar?

The UN involves allowing Masters, NATO involves making and keeping allies.

If you think America doesn't need allies at this point, please tell me why. Thanks.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:32pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
You realize the UN and NATO are not even remotely similar?

They are, actually. 

They are both political alliances which make it possible for other countries to influence the affairs of the US.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson (and others) explicitly warned us never to engage in these arrangements.

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - entangling alliances with none." - George Washington

"Let our affairs be disentangled from those of all other nations, except as to commerce" - Thomas Jefferson


Jeff wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
If you think America doesn't need allies at this point, please tell me why. Thanks.
During times of War, it's good to have allies.

Please note that the US has not been at war since 1945.

All military intervention since WW II was just that - military intervention in foreign conflicts.

The US should NOT be in the business of nation-building.

"i dont want any super powers the usa should not be the world police." - thermf5
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:07pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
You realize the UN and NATO are not even remotely similar?

The UN involves allowing Masters, NATO involves making and keeping allies.

If you think America doesn't need allies at this point, please tell me why. Thanks.


We wouldnt' need so many "allies" if we stopped screwing with other countries.

What good does our alliance with Israel do us?

  

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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:59pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
We wouldnt' need so many "allies" if we stopped screwing with other countries.



According to Rothbard, we wouldn't even need any military ourselves. Grin

The reason for us allying ourselves with other nations, as I understand it, is to help them resist tyranny so that we don't end up being the only free country in the world.

Perhaps, as we grow less and less free ourselves, the rationale for allies and a military are disappearing.
  
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Jeff wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
The reason for us allying ourselves with other nations, as I understand it, is to help them resist tyranny so that we don't end up being the only free country in the world.

How does the US empower our "allies" to resist tyranny?

UAE is ally of the US.  Does the US help them resist tyranny

Or do we tolerate them so they will give us their oil for our weapons?

Canada is an ally of the US.  What are the chances that tyranny will be knocking at Canada's door?
  
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Re: Ideal Replacement for Nikki Haley - The Definitive Answer
Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 10:37am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:59pm:
According to Rothbard, we wouldn't even need any military ourselves. Grin

The reason for us allying ourselves with other nations, as I understand it, is to help them resist tyranny so that we don't end up being the only free country in the world.

Perhaps, as we grow less and less free ourselves, the rationale for allies and a military are disappearing.


Astute words, Jeff.

If any of the plans to save the world from tyranny had actually worked, there would be much more agreement that we need our bloated military. 

If Wilson's idea to "keep the world safe from democracy" had actually been the war to end all wars instead of only a prelude to an even more bloody mechanized mass slaughter.  If FDR's plan to save European socialists that he liked from European socialists that he didn't like had led to freedom and peace those justifications would have more credibility.  After all that money and blood, Europe and China were far less free than before.

The Cold War ended without a nuclear extinction by a miracle.  But then we went right into the "War on Terror" AKA, the "War to make sure Israel isn't bothered by having to Defend itself."  More than a decade and a half losing wars to countries like Afghanistan and waiting for those idiots in Iran to keep trying until they have a nuclear bomb and the Israel we're protecting goes away.

I say, pull in all of our military for border and coastal defense.  If the rest of the world goes feral (Europe likely leading the way), ignore them.  We have all the resources we need in the U.S.  When other countries start starving, they will come to us for goods and we will sell them for whatever the market will bear.*

"We" meaning producers, not the government.   


  

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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 12:27pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 10:37am:
I say, pull in all of our military for border and coastal defense.  If the rest of the world goes feral (Europe likely leading the way), ignore them.  We have all the resources we need in the U.S. 

   Smiley  This is isolationist talk, Red.    Smiley

But I agree 100%.   

All US military intervention needs to stop. 

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