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Reply #20 - Oct 19th, 2018 at 6:02pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
Unfortunately, it was a class action that I knew nothing about. 


Then why did you call it your lawsuit?
  
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Jeff wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
Then why did you call it your lawsuit?


Same reason you call money in the bank accounts of homeowners, "the government's money."
  

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Reply #22 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:17pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Same reason you call money in the bank accounts of homeowners, "the government's money."
FRNs aren't money and they belong to the Federal Reserve.

When you redeem them with the Fed, expect to receive what they are worth. Shocked

Do you have any other lawsuits in progress that you know nothing about? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
FRNs aren't money and they belong to the Federal Reserve.




Whatever they are, you believe in the government's magical power to convert them from mine to "the community's."


  

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Reply #24 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:37pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
Whatever they are, you believe in the government's magical power to convert them from mine to "the community's."


Woof! Grin

All the FRNs used to belong to you? And you're pissed that I've managed to make them common property? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  
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Reply #25 - Oct 22nd, 2018 at 9:47pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
Woof! Grin

All the FRNs used to belong to you? And you're pissed that I've managed to make them common property? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Nice hyperbole. Quote where he said all.

Proof positive that you'd rather win dirty with tactics like deliberate misrepresentation of others' positions, than lose clean.

I have a dollar bill in my pocket right now. I earned it through hard work. Whose is it?

I expect you to say it's yours, prove it with another pro interpretation of libertarian principles, and demand I give it to you.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #26 - Oct 23rd, 2018 at 8:57am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 9:47pm:
I have a dollar bill in my pocket right now. I earned it through hard work. Whose is it?

It's yours lizard.

Red was the one asking the question "Does the government own my money?"

Why don't you straighten him out, thanks.
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 23rd, 2018 at 10:30am
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Jeff wrote on Oct 23rd, 2018 at 8:57am:
It's yours lizard.

Red was the one asking the question "Does the government own my money?"

Why don't you straighten him out, thanks.


So, if the dollar in my pocket is mine but then local people decide that I have to give it to them so they can redistribute it to the public school staff, at what point does the dollar rightfully belong to them and not me?

Does the change of ownership occur at the moment the local people make that decision or not until I actually hand over my their dollar?

It's a really easy question, Jeff.
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Reply #28 - Oct 23rd, 2018 at 12:08pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Oct 23rd, 2018 at 10:30am:
So, if the dollar in my pocket is mine but then local people decide that I have to give it to them to transfer it to the public school staff, at what point does the dollar rightfully belong to them and not me?

Does the change of ownership occur at the moment the local people make that decision or not until I actually hand over my their dollar?

It's a really easy question, Jeff.
The money is yours until you pay the taxes you  owe, then it become revenue.

It becomes a teacher's money after the teacher works to earn it.
  
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Reply #29 - Oct 23rd, 2018 at 12:32pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 23rd, 2018 at 12:08pm:
The money is yours until you pay the taxes you  owe, then it become revenue.

It becomes a teacher's money after the teacher works to earn it.


So even after a tax becomes "due" under a legal tax and I "owe" the money, it is still mine?  But I just have no right to keep it?  How can it both be my money and I have no right to keep it?  I'm  not sure what definition of "my" you are using.

When it becomes the teacher's money, it is all hers even if she "owes" taxes?  But she has no right to keep it either? 

This is the reason government cannot back currency in precious which you think is such a good idea.  There is a finite amount of gold and silver to be used to back the currency.  If government claims a bite of each transaction, as you advocate, the money supply will gradually disappear into the government's vaults.* 

The only way to slow that down would be to slow the economy.  Instead, government institutes fiat money and then prints more and more fake money which can be taxed with no limits.

*The only way to avoid this is for government to spend every cent it takes in on projects like midnight basketball, pyramids, a Space Force and public schools that fail.

  

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