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Re: SCOTUS To Rule On 1st Amendment Case Regarding Social Media
Reply #20 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:37am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 26th, 2018 at 11:51pm:

You have a bunch of rights that are completely unworkable in the real world...
Your unfounded assertions are not convincing lizard.
  
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Reply #21 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:38am
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 4:02am:
Alright, what about zero percent? Can something be wrong if no one on your entire planet thinks it actually is wrong?
Only if the planet is an infinite flat world. Grin

Speaking of things that the Supreme Court should re-visit, here's one-

https://reason.com/reasontv/2018/10/26/how-third-parties-being-screwed-this-ele?...


  
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Reply #22 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:08pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:37am:
Your unfounded assertions are not convincing lizard.


You admitted that property rights - as in, the actual right to your property, including the right not to have it taxed off you - is impractical.

Taxes are necessary, you've said, but you can't force YouTube to be politically neutral because they're a private business and they have rights.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #23 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:11pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
You admitted that property rights - as in, the actual right to your property, including the right not to have it taxed off you - is impractical.

I don't believe any of that to be true, why would I say it?


You were going to tell us about "a bunch" of rights that are unworkable...

"You have a bunch of rights that are completely unworkable in the real world..."

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Re: SCOTUS To Rule On 1st Amendment Case Regarding Social Media
Reply #24 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:13pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Taxes are necessary, you've said, but you can't force YouTube to be politically neutral because they're a private business and they have rights.
The owners of any business have the same rights as anyone else. Why wouldn't they?

What does that have to do with taxation being necessary?

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/james_madison_105473

I was thinking, I own and operate a successful working man's bar... If the S.Ct. says Facebook has to maintain a "politically neutral" forum, does that mean I will have to do the same thing in my bar?
  
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Reply #25 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
I don't believe any of that to be true, why would I say it?


You have said it, many times. Taxes are necessary so we make an exception to my rights so I can be taxed. For the greater good of course!

Jeff wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:13am:
I simply understand that a radical and blind adherence to a fundamental concept like rights produces only radical fundamentalists and does not allow any policies to be judged by results.

The result of absolutism with respect to rights is anarchy.

I'm interested in the creation and maintenance of a civilized liberal society where rights are protected by a limited government with strictly limited powers of taxation.


But when it's a business, you go right back to absolute rights again.
  

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Re: SCOTUS To Rule On 1st Amendment Case Regarding Social Media
Reply #26 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 6:40pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
You have said it, many times. Taxes are necessary so we make an exception to my rights so I can be taxed.
Our governments have been granted the power to tax in order to accomplish the purposes we set for them, and yes, taxes are necessary. Nevertheless, you still have better protected property rights than most every place in the world. And you can own a chicken. Smiley

Taxes support the system that lets you be as free as you are. It could be better, but you don't want to help. Cry
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 6:43pm
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The Opposition wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
But when it's a business, you go right back to absolute rights again.
Once again, I don't think rights are, or can be, absolute in any civilized society.

You can have your absolute rights in the jungle, but you'll have to fight for them to the death.

I've never favored that sort of thing.
  
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Re: SCOTUS To Rule On 1st Amendment Case Regarding Social Media
Reply #28 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 6:58pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
You were going to tell us about "a bunch" of rights that are unworkable...

"You have a bunch of rights that are completely unworkable in the real world..."

The lizard
Go ahead. Or post your list first, I don't care.
  
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Re: SCOTUS To Rule On 1st Amendment Case Regarding Social Media
Reply #29 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:51pm
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Jeff wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Once again, I don't think rights are, or can be, absolute in any civilized society.

You can have your absolute rights in the jungle, but you'll have to fight for them to the death.

I've never favored that sort of thing.


You do when it's a business. You're absolutely against forcing YouTube to remain politically neutral.

Why? Because they're a private business and they have rights.

It really is just about Advantage: Big Business. I'm not saying this is wrong; I'm just asking you to be honest about what libertarianism is and why the NAP is such a huge deal.

You're okay with a philosophy that's constructed to let "everyone" have all these rights, precisely because you know regular people won't be able to assert theirs, and you can just go, "oh well they should have hired a better private security company  Grin."
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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