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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #180 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:40pm
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Jeff wrote on Nov 27th, 2018 at 3:33pm:
Don't blame me, blame the takeover of local schools by the federal government.


That takeover started because some school districts thought it appropriate to tax black people the same rates as whites and then send their children to inferior schools.

You believe that school districts should be controlled locally even if local people do that?


  

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Reply #181 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 4:29pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
That takeover started because some school districts thought it appropriate to tax black people the same rates as whites and then send their children to inferior schools.


You are confused as usual.

There is no right under the 14th Amendment to have DEA bureaucrats and government teachers unions suck political ass and mandate a curriculum for your local schools. Angry Angry Angry

Not only that, but there is no granted power for the feds to involve themselves in education in any way.
  
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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #182 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 4:51pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 4:29pm:
You are confused as usual.

There is no right under the 14th Amendment to have DEA bureaucrats and government teachers unions suck political ass and mandate a curriculum for your local schools. Angry Angry Angry

Not only that, but there is no granted power for the feds to involve themselves in education in any way.


So if a does not protect black parents from being taxed for schools their children are not allowed to attend,  you’re fine with that?



  

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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #183 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:13pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 4:51pm:
So if a does not protect black parents from being taxed for schools their children are not allowed to attend,  you’re fine with that?



What?

The 14th Amendment prevents state governments from passing discriminatory laws, and I suppose, through incorporation, also prevents local school districts from discriminating.

I think that is essential.

Do you not agree? I hope you don't think it's essential that bureaucrats make discriminatory rules at the behest of the courts?

Do you? Please be specific, it's a yes or no question. Kiss
  
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Reply #184 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:31pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:13pm:
What?

The 14th Amendment prevents state governments from passing discriminatory laws, and I suppose, through incorporation, also prevents local school districts from discriminating.

I think that is essential.



Well, that is the reason that the federal government “took over education.”

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Do you not agree? I hope you don't think it's essential that bureaucrats make discriminatory rules at the behest of the courts?

Do you? Please be specific, it's a yes or no question. Kiss


I think that there should be no government schools unless they are voluntarily funded.  That will end much of the mischief they do.
  

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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #185 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:40pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
Well, that is the reason that the federal government “took over education.”



What reason is that Sacky? Be specific. Thanks.
  
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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #186 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:44pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
I think that there should be no government schools unless they are voluntarily funded.
I asked you this before, several times, how will you prevent local towns and counties from creating school systems funded by local taxes and under local control?

By decrees of your precious SCOTUS?
  
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Reply #187 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 10:27am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:40pm:
What reason is that Sacky? Be specific. Thanks.


That states were not providing equal protection for taxpayers forced to pay for public school. 

States often suck at giving citizens "equal protection."  That's why they passed the 14 Amendment.




  

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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #188 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 10:27am:
That states were not providing equal protection for taxpayers forced to pay for public school. 

States often suck at giving citizens "equal protection."  That's why they passed the 14 Amendment.




They were treating black children differently when it came to educating them.

Curing that ill does not require that the federal government take over education in America and rule it by bureaucratic fiat.

It only requires that state governments not discriminate.
  
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Re: How Should Government Deal With Transgender Prisoners?
Reply #189 - Dec 6th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
They were treating black children differently when it came to educating them.

Curing that ill does not require that the federal government take over education in America and rule it by bureaucratic fiat.

It only requires that state governments not discriminate.


Which they would still be doing to this day if the federal government had not stepped in.

You argued in another post that it is results, not principles, that determine morality.  How is respecting "states' rights" moral when it leads to the result of continued discrimination?


  

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