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Remembering the First World War
Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:54pm
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The Great War is central to understanding the reality of this world.

Woodrow Wilson won re-election in 1916 by campaigning on his having kept the US out of this war.  He became pro-war in the spring of 1917.

Americans clearly had trouble with this war.  Of the target 1 million volunteers, only 73,000 showed up.  The draft became necessary.

Also necessary was a law to forbid publicly criticizing the war, the 1917 Espionage Act, unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court when people were jailed and challenged it under the First Amendment.

In Britain, a large wave of volunteers at the start of the war died down and a draft, too, became necessary.

So what was the war for?  A BBC program was still trying to answer the question a few years ago.

What we do know is that the global financial empire was safely moved from Britain to the US.  (The Fed was founded just before war broke out.)  And that the biggest threat to that empire, Germany, was defeated at great cost.

The above has turned out to be quite a different kind of remembrance from one sanctioned by the establishment!
  
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Re: Remembering the First World War
Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:05pm
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BobK71 wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
The Great War is central to understanding the reality of this world.

What does it tell you about India or Vietnam? Or Malaysia or the Philippines or the Koreas? Or South and Central America?

Edit: Or today's China for that matter.
  
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BobK71 wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
So what was the war for?
To make the world safe for democracy of course.

That's what Wilson said... The Kaiser had other things in mind I think. No telling what the Tsar of All the Russias hoped to accomplish. I don't think he knew.

Why would the Brits have tried to save France from the Kaiser?? Cheesy

Edit: Is it possible that the Tsar was a communist? I think it is.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:18pm
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BobK71 wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
What we do know is that the global financial empire was safely moved from Britain to the US.
Wilson and his cronies were behind the Great War? They started it to get rich and powerful by empowering New York banks, backing them with government power?

I can see that and agree.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 10:39pm
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Woodrow Wilson wins my vote for the Worst President In The history Of The United States.  Period.

He introduced modern progressivism to America, and it's been a death-spiral ever since.

He mortgaged our country to a crappity-smacking bank cartel. (Federal Reserve)

He lied to voters and promised to keep the US neutral in foreign conflicts.

He institutionalized (Marxist) income tax.

Many good Americans lost their lives in muddy, mustard-gas trenches because of this shit-heel.

Disgusting!
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 1:16am
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I once tried to look up what actually started WWI.

I'm not sure anyone knows the answer.
  

This moral relativism of yours is exactly what lets government take this freedom, then that freedom, until we have lost them all.
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Reply #6 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:49am
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 1:16am:
I once tried to look up what actually started WWI.

I'm not sure anyone knows the answer.
I do. A Serbian anarchist shot some Royal dweeb and all of the idiots in charge saw the need to honor all the foolish outdated mutual defense agreements they'd signed. And of course all the Royals wanted to keep their empires and/or expand them. Edit: The Royals had been inbreeding for quite a while, I think that was a factor too...

It's really easy to find the answer you obviously didn't really look for-

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/outbreak-of-world-war-i
  
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SkyChief wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
Woodrow Wilson wins my vote for the Worst President In The history Of The United States.  Period.

He introduced modern progressivism to America, and it's been a death-spiral ever since.

He mortgaged our country to a crappity-smacking bank cartel. (Federal Reserve)

He lied to voters and promised to keep the US neutral in foreign conflicts.

He institutionalized (Marxist) income tax.

Many good Americans lost their lives in muddy, mustard-gas trenches because of this shit-heel.

Disgusting!
Give some credit to Herbert Hoover, but, as always, Congress passed the laws and funded the programs.
Congress declared war, and it's impossible to believe that Congress didn't know that Wilson was shipping war materiel to Europe on passenger ships...
Congress granted power to the Federal Reserve Bank.
  
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Re: Remembering the First World War
Reply #8 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 11:09am
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Jeff wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:49am:
I do. A Serbian anarchist shot some Royal dweeb and all of the idiots in charge saw the need to honor all the foolish outdated mutual defense agreements they'd signed. And of course all the Royals wanted to keep their empires and/or expand them. Edit: The Royals had been inbreeding for quite a while, I think that was a factor too...

It's really easy to find the answer you obviously didn't really look for-

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/outbreak-of-world-war-i


This is also how Hitler's book said it happened, and what prompted me to look it up, but other sources say it wasn't about the gunshot.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/12/what-started-world-war-i/
  

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Re: Remembering the First World War
Reply #9 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 12:43pm
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The Opposition wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 11:09am:
This is also how Hitler's book said it happened, and what prompted me to look it up, but other sources say it wasn't about the gunshot.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/12/what-started-world-war-i/
I mentioned all the defense agreements. I never knew the Emperor was glad the anarchist killed the Archduke.
  
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