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Double Jeopardy
Dec 6th, 2018 at 9:35am
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It's clearly unconstitutional, but "progressive" Supreme Courts decided it was useful, so we have it now, made "constitutional" by the courts. Another alteration to the Constitution achieved without approval of the people.

https://reason.com/archives/2018/12/05/stop-ignoring-double-jeopardy?utm_medium=...
  
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Re: Double Jeopardy
Reply #1 - Dec 8th, 2018 at 7:11am
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Here's a bit of news, some of our federal courts might actually be prepared to examine a few of the "laws" created by Executive Order to determine if they are constitutional-

https://www.speroforum.com/a/RQLHQAROXX19/84444-Appellate-court-brief-supports-T...
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 8th, 2018 at 8:57am
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Jeff, you constantly advocate for multiple levels of government with unlimited powers to tax and spend and then you act surprised over this small outrage and that small intrusion.

No piece of paper can control the kind of people who want to live off the earnings of others.

  

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Reply #3 - Dec 8th, 2018 at 3:09pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Jeff, you constantly advocate for multiple levels of government with unlimited powers to tax and spend and then you act surprised over this small outrage and that small intrusion.


Having Presidents make and alter laws is not an insignificant thing Sack.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:26am
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Jeff wrote on Dec 8th, 2018 at 3:09pm:
Having Presidents make and alter laws is not an insignificant thing Sack.


Let's say you're right about that.

Why in the world would you expect the Supreme Court to do anything about that?
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:12pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 10:26am:
Let's say you're right about that.

Why in the world would you expect the Supreme Court to do anything about that?
From time to time in the past, SCOTUS has been quite clear that only Congress is granted the power to make laws or alter laws or abolish laws.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
From time to time in the past, SCOTUS has been quite clear that only Congress is granted the power to make laws or alter laws or abolish laws.


But why SCOTUS, though?  Is there something in the Constitution that gives SCOTUS the power to "be clear" about what presidents and lawmakers are supposed to do?


  

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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 4:53pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
But why SCOTUS, though?  Is there something in the Constitution that gives SCOTUS the power to "be clear" about what presidents and lawmakers are supposed to do?


A conflict between the executive and legislative branches over which branch is authorized to do what is a question arising under Constitutional Law. The Supreme Court is required to adjudicate the issue and decide where the actual power is granted, and which branch it is granted to.

Any Citizen has standing to bring suit against the Executive if the Executive declares war on it's own initiative.

Any Citizen has standing to bring suit against Congress if Congress tries to delegate it's powers without the authorization of the people.
  
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Re: Double Jeopardy
Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:42pm
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Jeff wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 4:53pm:
A conflict between the executive and legislative branches over which branch is authorized to do what is a question arising under Constitutional Law. The Supreme Court is required to adjudicate the issue and decide where the actual power is granted, and which branch it is granted to.

Any Citizen has standing to bring suit against the Executive if the Executive declares war on it's own initiative.

Any Citizen has standing to bring suit against Congress if Congress tries to delegate it's powers without the authorization of the people.


Where in the Constitution does it say that?  Are you just making this up?
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:58pm
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Snarky Sack wrote on Dec 13th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Where in the Constitution does it say that?  Are you just making this up?
No, I'm not making it up. Such disputes were brought to the S. Ct. in the past. Why wouldn't they be?


  
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